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Narrated Abu Qilaba: "Anas said, "Some people of 'Ukl or 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their milk and urine . So they went as directed and after they became healthy, they killed the shepherd of the Prophet and drove away all the camels. The news reached the Prophet early in the morning and he sent (men) in their pursuit and they were captured and brought at noon. He then ordered to cut their hands and feet (and it was done), and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron, They were put in 'Al-Harra' and when they asked for water, no water was given to them." Abu Qilaba said, "Those people committed theft and murder, became infidels after embracing Islam and fought against Allah and His Apostle . (Sahih Bukhari, Ablutions (Wudu'), Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234)"


Is this your "prophet of God"??
Is this a cultured civilised Man or a Murderous psychopathic sadist?

Dont deceive your selves! use common sense! is this a prophet of God?? or prophet of Shiatan??

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Did Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him prescribe camel urine as medicine?
The sections of this article are:
1- The Hadith (narration) by the Prophet.
2- The scientific facts about some animals' urine.
3- Scientists discovered cure from camels for humans.

4- Proofs from the Noble Quran, Hadiths and Science that Camel Urine does have cure in it for humans - written by brother G. F. Haddad.

5- Who were the Tribe of Uraina?
6- What about the Bible's cruelty and the slaughtering of suckling infants?




1- The Hadith (narration) by the Prophet:
First let us look at the Sayings (Hadiths) of our beloved Prophet that dealt with camel urine:
Narrated Abu Qilaba: "Anas said, "Some people of 'Ukl or 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they went as directed and after they became healthy, they killed the shepherd of the Prophet and drove away all the camels. The news reached the Prophet early in the morning and he sent (men) in their pursuit and they were captured and brought at noon. He then ordered to cut their hands and feet (and it was done), and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron, They were put in 'Al-Harra' and when they asked for water, no water was given to them." Abu Qilaba said, "Those people committed theft and murder, became infidels after embracing Islam and fought against Allah and His Apostle . (Sahih Bukhari, Ablutions (Wudu'), Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234)"



Cutting the hands and feet of the enemy in the Bible:
Before we proceed, it is important to know that the Bible's Prophets too did similar punishment (cutting hands and feet of the enemy):
2 Samuel 4
10 when a man told me, 'Saul is dead,' and thought he was bringing good news, I seized him and put him to death in Ziklag. That was the reward I gave him for his news!
11 How much more-when wicked men have killed an innocent man in his own house and on his own bed-should I not now demand his blood from your hand and rid the earth of you!"
12 So David gave an order to his men, and they killed them. They cut off their hands and feet and hung the bodies by the pool in Hebron. But they took the head of Ish-Bosheth and buried it in Abner's tomb at Hebron.


Please visit: Prophet Muhammad is a Murderer for KILLING the enemies? WHAT ABOUT THE BIBLE'S PROPHETS' MURDERS that were blessed by GOD?
Refutation to the preposterous LIES of Jochen Katz about his Bible not containing inhumane murders from its Prophets!


2- The scientific facts about some animals' urine:
A comment from sister NicoleWoods, an American young sister who embraced Islam; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with her: "I just wanted to share the news with you that in products such as tylenol or asparine (not sure which but u can check the labels), there is an ingredient called PREMARIN. Biology majors here tell me that the name stands for PREgnant MARe urIN. Of course, no one would put unprocessed urine into medication... i'm sure it's boiled or pasteurized or something. But the ingredient is used very much in the way the prophet (peace be upon him) suggested using camel urine.. such as for headaches. oh, well, i'm sure to you it sounds disgusting... think of it next time u reach for tylenol or asparine *wink*"

Further from
a Muslimah, who works in the Medical field as a Mammographer; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with her: "Estrogen product called PREMARIN is given to postmenopausal Women. This PREMARIN is extracted from HORSE URINE. The Estrogen product is hormones given to women."

Further from brother Abu Adam on my Message Board; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:
"Here is another miracle in the Hadeeth. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in a hadeeth told someone to drink camel's urine as a medical treatment.
Of course the ignorant Christians love to mock this hadeeth. Even I, thought this was a strange hadeeth. But look, in America, they have been driking horse urine for a long time as a cure.
Just like the Quran says, 41:53: "Soon will We show them our Signs in the (furthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?"
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go to www.premarin.org for the following. (also see premarin.com)
Premarin® stands for Pregnant Mares' Urine (PREgnant MARes' urINe)
Premarin (including Prempro, Premphase, Prempac, and Premelle) is a drug made up of conjugated estrogens obtained from the urine of pregnant mares -- put out in many forms (pills, creams, injections, patches, vaginal rings) and is used to reduce the symptoms of menopause in women or women who have had a hysterectomy. It is also prescribed to nearly eliminate the risk of osteoporosis (the brittling of bones) and reduce the chance of heart disease in women over 50."

Further from brother Abdul Hafiz; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
The Prophet prescribing Camel Urine as medicine:

First of all, let us clarify the reason and story behind the prescription. Some people had become very ill at the time of the prophet, and were suffering from an unknown illness. Their bellies had swollen and they were not in a fit state. Hence, the prophet said to them, that they would find a cure in the milk and urine of a camel and so he sent them out to an area where camels were grazing. These men went to this area and drank the milk and urine. Sure enough, just like the Prophet said, they were cured and became fit and healthy.

However, at the same time, evil thoughts entered their minds and they decided they wanted the camels for themselves. They therefore killed the owner, and made off with the camels. When news of the murder reached the prophet, he sent an envoy to capture the men, and when they were captured and brought before the prophet, capital punishment was meted out to them.
Having read this story, what do we conclude from it? The answering islam team would have us believe that this Hadith means that drinking camel urine is permissible in Islam. This is INCORRECT. The real meaning of this Hadith is that if a person needs to consume an impure and impermissible substance as a cure for an illness, and no other reasonable alternative is available, then it is permissible. In all other circumstances, camel urine is prohibited.
Wassalaam

Please visit Science in the Noble Quran and Islam.


3- Scientists discovered cure from camels for humans:
Please visit Scientists discovered cure from camels for humans.


4- Proofs from the Noble Quran, Hadiths and Science that Camel Urine does have cure in it for humans - written by brother G. F. Haddad:
Please visit: Camel Milk And Urine Hadiths. The link was sent to me by brother MENJ; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
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5- Who were the Tribe of Uraina?
The tribe of Uraina or Bani Uraina (in Arabic) were one of the worst Pagan tribes that the Muslims had to face. Their style in fighting was to attack the Muslims during the night and kill as much men as possible. They also used all of the dirty tricks they could to (1) defeat the Muslims; (2) sneaking up on the Muslims; and (3) cause enmity between the Muslims and other Pagan tribes.
In all of the battles that Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him entered, he never killed any captive, nor did he torture any captive. Only the tribe of Uraina did it.
The men from Bani Uraina who came to the Muslims and pretended to embraced Islam played the same tricks that their tribe always played. They pretended to be Muslims, and then when the opportunity presented itself, they would kill as much as possible and run away.
Notice how Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him trusted them at first, regardless of the bad history that this tribe had. He never generalized, and he gave those men a chance and the benefit of the doubt.
Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him didn't order the hard punishment for those hypocrites because they were hypocrites. Muslims during the weak times of Islam suffered from lots and lots of hypocrites. The People of the Book (Jews and Christians) were among the worst hypocrites; "A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say: Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers (Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam). (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"
Prophet Muhammad never ordered for any of the Jewish or Christian hypocrite's hands or legs to be cut off. He only did it to Bani Uraina, because they highly deserved it!.
So the point is, Islam DOES NOT order the cutting of the right hand and left leg, or the left hand and right leg of any hypocrite who UNTRUTHFULLY embraces Islam and then leaves it later on, because many during the weak times of Islam embraced Islam and left it, and no such torture happened to them. However Prophet Muhammad did later on prevent the hypocrites from entering Islam and later deserting it.
Let us look at the following Noble Verse to see when Islam would allow for the cutting of the hands and feet of the enemy:
"The punishment of those who wage war against God and His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter; (The Noble Quran, 5:33)"
If the enemy is a very bad enemy and are dedicated to fight Islam and the Muslims till death, then Muslims are ordered to punish them severely by either executing them, crucifying them, cutting off their hands and feet from opposite sides or exile them from the land. This Noble Verse does not apply to all of the enemies of Islam. It only applies to the worst enemies such as Bani Uraina during our beloved Prophet's time.
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6- What about the Bible's cruelty and the slaughtering of suckling infants?
Introduction: We must first of all know that the entire Bible is corrupted and unreliable and is mostly filled with man-made laws and corruption! GOD Almighty Said: "`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
In either translation, we clearly see that the Jews had so much corrupted the Bible with their man-made cultural laws, that they had turned the Bible into a lie!
See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death.
The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.
There are several Verses in the Bible that seem to be very cruel. Let us look at few of them:
1 Samuel 15:2-4
2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.

Let us look at Numbers 31:17"Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
Also, let us look at Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [among them were virgin girls]."
Why kill the innocent children? Why kill all of the non-virgin women? Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars. Women rarely fought in battle fields. So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?
This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him: "But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic. He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors. (From the NIV Bible, 1 Samuel 5:9)"
"tumors" was defined as "with tumors in the groin."This is verified at this link.
Why torture the enemies by destroying their groins?
I wonder how the hypocrites of the Christian "Answering Islam" team would reply to these verses from their x-rated pornographic Bible.
Did you also know that fathers are allowed to insert their fingers into their daughters' vaginas in the porn-full bible?
My Question: My question to those hypocrites is, using your own standards, does this also make your porn-full bible an "invalid" book?
We are not even sure that the books of "Numbers" and "1 Samuel" are GOD's Divine Words. Let us look at what the NIV Bible's Theologians had to say about them:
The Book of Numbers:
"It is not necessary, however, to claim that Numbers came from Moses' hand complete and in final form. Portions of the book were probably added by scribes or editors from later periods of Israel's history. For example, the protestation of the humility of Moses (12:3) would hardly be convincing if it came from his own mouth. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 183)"
So in reality, we don't know who were all the authors who wrote the book of Numbers. How is it possible then to call the book of Numbers the True Living Revelations of GOD Almighty if the book had been tampered with by the man-made laws of the scribes?
As you clearly saw in Jeremiah 8:8 in the introduction above, GOD Almighty condemned the laws of the scribes and accused them for turning the Bible into a lie.

The books of 1 and 2 Samuel:
"Many questions have arisen pertaining to the literary character, authorship and date of 1,2 Samuel."
"Who the author was cannot be known with certainty since the book itself gives no indication of his identity."
(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 368).
Again, unknown books with unknown authors had been inserted into the Bible and are now considered GOD's Revelations. What a joke! Since when do we consider man-made stories and narrations as GOD's Revelations?
(www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm) Please visit the link to see the NIV Bible Book's Bibliography in case you wish to order it.
Please visit Why did Muhammad take up arms and Christ didn't? Why did Islam spread by the sword if it were indeed a Religion of Truth, and Christianity didn't? See my response to this misunderstanding. Jesus killed his enemies in the Bible?
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Did Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him prescribe camel urine as medicine?
The sections of this article are:
1- The Hadith (narration) by the Prophet.
2- The scientific facts about some animals' urine.
3- Scientists discovered cure from camels for humans.

4- Proofs from the Noble Quran, Hadiths and Science that Camel Urine does have cure in it for humans - written by brother G. F. Haddad.

5- Who were the Tribe of Uraina?
6- What about the Bible's cruelty and the slaughtering of suckling infants?




1- The Hadith (narration) by the Prophet:
First let us look at the Sayings (Hadiths) of our beloved Prophet that dealt with camel urine:
Narrated Abu Qilaba: "Anas said, "Some people of 'Ukl or 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they went as directed and after they became healthy, they killed the shepherd of the Prophet and drove away all the camels. The news reached the Prophet early in the morning and he sent (men) in their pursuit and they were captured and brought at noon. He then ordered to cut their hands and feet (and it was done), and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron, They were put in 'Al-Harra' and when they asked for water, no water was given to them." Abu Qilaba said, "Those people committed theft and murder, became infidels after embracing Islam and fought against Allah and His Apostle . (Sahih Bukhari, Ablutions (Wudu'), Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234)"



Cutting the hands and feet of the enemy in the Bible:
Before we proceed, it is important to know that the Bible's Prophets too did similar punishment (cutting hands and feet of the enemy):
2 Samuel 4
10 when a man told me, 'Saul is dead,' and thought he was bringing good news, I seized him and put him to death in Ziklag. That was the reward I gave him for his news!
11 How much more-when wicked men have killed an innocent man in his own house and on his own bed-should I not now demand his blood from your hand and rid the earth of you!"
12 So David gave an order to his men, and they killed them. They cut off their hands and feet and hung the bodies by the pool in Hebron. But they took the head of Ish-Bosheth and buried it in Abner's tomb at Hebron.


Please visit: Prophet Muhammad is a Murderer for KILLING the enemies? WHAT ABOUT THE BIBLE'S PROPHETS' MURDERS that were blessed by GOD?
Refutation to the preposterous LIES of Jochen Katz about his Bible not containing inhumane murders from its Prophets!

Well if this is God's instruction it is truely horrible .... on other hand muslims claims that Cristian Bible is Currupted badly that is why Koran came to superseed everything before that so we can say this part may be a curruped part which muslims talking abt

but I challenge you if you can show me any violance statement in New Testiment Other things is old law may not applicable to now in old testiment Moses said " Eye for a eye" but Jesus told us today if someone slap on ur left turn the otherside as well

2- The scientific facts about some animals' urine:
A comment from sister NicoleWoods, an American young sister who embraced Islam; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with her: "I just wanted to share the news with you that in products such as tylenol or asparine (not sure which but u can check the labels), there is an ingredient called PREMARIN. Biology majors here tell me that the name stands for PREgnant MARe urIN. Of course, no one would put unprocessed urine into medication... i'm sure it's boiled or pasteurized or something. But the ingredient is used very much in the way the prophet (peace be upon him) suggested using camel urine.. such as for headaches. oh, well, i'm sure to you it sounds disgusting... think of it next time u reach for tylenol or asparine *wink*"

Further from
a Muslimah, who works in the Medical field as a Mammographer; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with her: "Estrogen product called PREMARIN is given to postmenopausal Women. This PREMARIN is extracted from HORSE URINE. The Estrogen product is hormones given to women."

Further from brother Abu Adam on my Message Board; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:
"Here is another miracle in the Hadeeth. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in a hadeeth told someone to drink camel's urine as a medical treatment.
Of course the ignorant Christians love to mock this hadeeth. Even I, thought this was a strange hadeeth. But look, in America, they have been driking horse urine for a long time as a cure.
Just like the Quran says, 41:53: "Soon will We show them our Signs in the (furthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?"
================================================== ====
go to www.premarin.org for the following. (also see premarin.com)
Premarin® stands for Pregnant Mares' Urine (PREgnant MARes' urINe)
Premarin (including Prempro, Premphase, Prempac, and Premelle) is a drug made up of conjugated estrogens obtained from the urine of pregnant mares -- put out in many forms (pills, creams, injections, patches, vaginal rings) and is used to reduce the symptoms of menopause in women or women who have had a hysterectomy. It is also prescribed to nearly eliminate the risk of osteoporosis (the brittling of bones) and reduce the chance of heart disease in women over 50."

Further from brother Abdul Hafiz; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
The Prophet prescribing Camel Urine as medicine:

First of all, let us clarify the reason and story behind the prescription. Some people had become very ill at the time of the prophet, and were suffering from an unknown illness. Their bellies had swollen and they were not in a fit state. Hence, the prophet said to them, that they would find a cure in the milk and urine of a camel and so he sent them out to an area where camels were grazing. These men went to this area and drank the milk and urine. Sure enough, just like the Prophet said, they were cured and became fit and healthy.

However, at the same time, evil thoughts entered their minds and they decided they wanted the camels for themselves. They therefore killed the owner, and made off with the camels. When news of the murder reached the prophet, he sent an envoy to capture the men, and when they were captured and brought before the prophet, capital punishment was meted out to them.
Having read this story, what do we conclude from it? The answering islam team would have us believe that this Hadith means that drinking camel urine is permissible in Islam. This is INCORRECT. The real meaning of this Hadith is that if a person needs to consume an impure and impermissible substance as a cure for an illness, and no other reasonable alternative is available, then it is permissible. In all other circumstances, camel urine is prohibited.
Wassalaam

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3- Scientists discovered cure from camels for humans:
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4- Proofs from the Noble Quran, Hadiths and Science that Camel Urine does have cure in it for humans - written by brother G. F. Haddad:
Please visit: Camel Milk And Urine Hadiths. The link was sent to me by brother MENJ; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
Brother there are so many verses are very inhuman in ur holy book it is very hard to b'live those are from truely a loving GOD
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මේ බයිබල් කතා අපට වැඩක් නැහැ. මුහම්මදා මිනිසුන්ගේ ඇස් පුච්චලා, අත පය කපලා වලකට දාලා වතුර ඉල්ලුවාම වතුරවත් නොදී මැරෙන්න ඇරියා. මේ සාමාන්‍ය මිනිහෙක් කරන වැඩක් නෙවෙයි, මේ ලෝකයේ පහල වෙච්ච තිරිසන්ම , මොලෙ විකෘති වෙච්ච Serial Killers, Psychoathsලා වත්, හිට්ලර් වත් කරපු නැති විදියේ අමානුශික ම්ලේඡ්ච වැඩක්. මේ වගේ මිනිහෙක් දෙවියෙක් ගේ පනිවිඩ කාරයෙක් වෙන්න පුලුවන්ද? සමාන්‍ය බුද්ධියක් ඇති ඔනේම කෙනෙකුට තේරෙනවා මේ මුහම්මද් මහ Sick , Psychopathic විකෘති මානසිකත්වයක් ඇති කෙනෙක් බව!
පුලුවන්නම් මේක සාධාරණීකරනය කරන්න. බොරු කතා එපා!
Brother we do not know you were actual ex-muslim but if it is true you'll be come a example of not to be a extremists

Some even say Prohpet Mohomed know not know who reveal the quran to him, he may be a from a Lusifer. that we know no know for sure but every Religion must be peaceful in there teachings and deeds

I always say there is only one religion in this world pread without any bloodshed that is "Buddism"

Real danger is if you once become muslims is not not easy to turn the other way (wright way)

If Vialonce verses were originaly there is the Original Quran then Islam itself is Terriosm
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Brother we do not know you were actual ex-muslim but if it is true you'll be come a example of not to be a extremists

Some even say Prohpet Mohomed know not know who reveal the quran to him, he may be a from a Lusifer. that we know no know for sure but every Religion must be peaceful in there teachings and deeds

I always say there is only one religion in this world pread without any bloodshed that is "Buddism"

Real danger is if you once become muslims is not not easy to turn the other way (wright way)

If Vialonce verses were originaly there is the Original Quran then Islam itself is Terriosm
කුජීතයි, ගූ හතයි වැලි එකයි නේ!
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05-02-2011, 03:45 PM

පව් නොකරන අප සාමලැදි මහා කරුනාවන්ත මුහ්ම්මද් උතුමාගේ වැඩ මෙන්න!

කටේ පිට්ටු හිරවී අනුගාමිකයෝ හිස් ලූ ලු අත දුවතෙයි !
තෙතෙයි තෙයි පල්ලියට ම දුවතෙයි.
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