Aethist corner of Elakiri

[ela_eluwa120]

An atheist cat

 

[rajitha_ks]

count me in

all religions equally suck

 

[ela_eluwa120]

I don't believe in god, but I believe in nature. we are a small unit in something that is much bigger, we are almost insignificant. we try to explain what's happening around us in a medium called science, and deny everything that escapes the realm of science. we have taken this universe for granted, we are but visitors and strangers in this place. we try to stand up to something and cold and unforgiving as nature with a primitive tool called science, and overlook the fact that nature shows no mercy to humanity. so if there's an all mighty god, that would be the nature.

I have a much more positive attitude about the possibility of knowledge.

 

[twisted]

I have a much more positive attitude about the possibility of knowledge.

as in there's a lot to learn?

 

[daredevill]

I don't believe in god, but I believe in nature. we are a small unit in something that is much bigger, we are almost insignificant. we try to explain what's happening around us in a medium called science, and deny everything that escapes the realm of science. we have taken this universe for granted, we are but visitors and strangers in this place. we try to stand up to something and cold and unforgiving as nature with a primitive tool called science, and overlook the fact that nature shows no mercy to humanity. so if there's an all mighty god, that would be the nature.

But what is nature? It's not a fixed thing right? Can you believe in something so dynamic?

 

[ela_eluwa120]

as in there's a lot to learn?

lot to inquire...

 

[twisted]

But what is nature? It's not a fixed thing right? Can you believe in something so dynamic?

how is it dynamic? I believe in it because it doesn't sugarcoat anything and it is so indifferent to our goodwill. it doesn't care whether we live or die. nature goes its own way and evolve on its process. it's as deep and dark as our imaginations can get. don't you think, and I respect it because the way of nature suits awfully to my world view. it's so fair in being unfair no religion on earth has shown that sort of honesty.

 

[smother]

ur trying to make a revolution by posting this single Thread? how many idiots have u got in ur shitty sack ?

Fuck God....Fuck Imaginary....

 

[twisted]

lot to inquire...

that may be true, but what is it that you intend to find out about in your inquiries ? is it about yourself?
Religions are here because, we human kind can't go on on our own, we need something to believe in, you lose your faith in life, has nothing to believe in, you lose the force that keeps you going on living. I think that's where religions came in. and later religious figures Used this human weakness or human nature to profit themselves. so as much as human feed on religions, religions feed on human.

what atheist fail so miserably to figure out is that, without a god, there would be no atheism to embrace, irony aint it

 

[ela_eluwa120]

that may be true, but what is it that you intend to find out about in your inquiries ? is it about yourself?
Religions are here because, we human kind can't go on on our own, we need something to believe in, you lose your faith in life, has nothing to believe in, you lose the force that keeps you going on living. I think that's where religions came in. and later religious figures Used this human weakness or human nature to profit themselves. so as much as human feed on religions, religions feed on human.

what atheist fail so miserably to figure out is that, without a god, there would be no atheism to embrace, irony aint it

yeah...psychologically humans need something to believe rather than being skeptical...I think religions as failed sciences...religions give psychological benefits for their believers...so, one should be emotionally strong to be an atheist..

No, main theme in atheism is the proposition "God does not exists"...I don't see an irony..

 

[daredevill]

how is it dynamic? I believe in it because it doesn't sugarcoat anything and it is so indifferent to our goodwill. it doesn't care whether we live or die. nature goes its own way and evolve on its process. it's as deep and dark as our imaginations can get. don't you think, and I respect it because the way of nature suits awfully to my world view. it's so fair in being unfair no religion on earth has shown that sort of honesty.

Okay can you define 'nature' then? And you believe in it because it's the 'real thing'?
You say

nature goes its own way and evolve on its process. it's as deep and dark as our imaginations can get.

yet you think you it suit your world view? Don't you think you are being judgmental?

 

[ela_eluwa120]

Okay can you define 'nature' then? And you believe in it because it's the 'real thing'?
You say yet you think you it suit your world view? Don't you think you are being judgmental?

He was very poetic...I felt like I was reading Shakespeare...

 

[ela_eluwa120]

Buddhism is the original version of Atheism but later the concept was changed based on the finding of the modern science. but it's totally wrong to believe modern science is Atheism. Athiesm is something different to modern science because it's constant though science is rapidly changed.

Science is a totally a different topic. I was not talking about science at all. I was simply pointing out that mere Godlessness does not count as atheism.

 

[daredevill]

He was very poetic...I felt like I was reading Shakespeare...

To be twisted or not to be twisted? that is 'the' question.

 

[twisted]

yeah...psychologically humans need something to believe rather than being skeptical...I think religions as failed sciences...religions give psychological benefits for their believers...so, one should be emotionally strong to be an atheist..

No, main theme in atheism is the proposition "God does not exists"...I don't see an irony..

'God does not exist'

say, God didn't exist, the whole idea of a god, a divine being was not there from the beginning, do you think you'd have atheism today? atheism is like the flip side of the coin. without a god it would not exists. it's NOT independent.
it fails

Okay can you define 'nature' then? And you believe in it because it's the 'real thing'?
You say yet you think you it suit your world view? Don't you think you are being judgmental?

I don't have to define nature. Nature might be variable but it was, is and will always be the TRUTH. whereas science and any other religion may be proven wrong. it's the wining side may be it doesn't cater the purpose of a religion but it never loses.

yeah I know I'm being judgmental, according to me world's not a fair place where good will triumph in the end as taught by every religion in existence. my opinion is biased, I can't help it I'm only human, so the inherent weaknesses in human are reflected in things I say and do.

 

[ela_eluwa120]

'God does not exist'

say, God didn't exist, the whole idea of a god, a divine being was not there from the beginning, do you think you'd have atheism today? atheism is like the flip side of the coin. without a god it would not exists. it's NOT independent.
it fails

but machan, it is one thing to say that idea of god exists, it is quite another thing say that god exists...eh..

 

[twisted]

He was very poetic...I felt like I was reading Shakespeare...

Shakespeare might be turning in his grave

To be twisted or not to be twisted? that is 'the' question.

I knew I should have picked 'boogie bubble' as the userid

but machan, it is one thing to say that idea of god exists, it is quite another thing say that god exists...eh..

I said 'Idea of god' instead of 'god' because we can't prove an existence to a God.
all I'm saying is Atheism can't survive on it's own. say, it was proven somehow that God, infact, doesn't exist. atheism ends there?

 

[twisted]

and science will never affect the masses the way religions have done. science is all proofs and facts where religions are all 'faith' and 'belief'. those go a long way. science would have prevailed over religions if humans were computers or robots. but unlike those, we got imagination. we got darkness in our minds and the mind travels where science can't reach. besides, religions have answers to questions for which, science offer no answers. in your faith, those questions are answered, so ..religions win by a long shot.

 

[ela_eluwa120]

I said 'Idea of god' instead of 'god' because we can't prove an existence to a God.
all I'm saying is Atheism can't survive on it's own. say, it was proven somehow that God, infact, doesn't exist. atheism ends there?

To say that God does not exists is to say that atheism is true...Atheism basically denote the assertion "God does not exists"..So, if God really does not exists, then the main thesis presented by atheism is true.

 

[daredevill]

I don't have to define nature. Nature might be variable but it was, is and will always be the TRUTH. whereas science and any other religion may be proven wrong. it's the wining side may be it doesn't cater the purpose of a religion but it never loses.

yeah I know I'm being judgmental, according to me world's not a fair place where good will triumph in the end as taught by every religion in existence. my opinion is biased, I can't help it I'm only human, so the inherent weaknesses in human are reflected in things I say and do.

So you believe in something you don't clearly know or understand? name it as the 'truth'? And you choose nature because other religion fail to impress you, so is like a ultimate religion to you?

What if I say your 'world view' is the 'nature' to you?