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sirajstc

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    Islamic method of Slaughtering animals is better



    Is it no wonder that animals killed using any method other than cutting the jugular vein is forbidden in the islam? God knows best what's good for us!

    Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) Said "God calls for mercy in everything, so be merciful when you kill and when you slaughter, sharpen your blade to relieve its pain".

    It says the object or tool used to slaughter the animal should be sharp and used swiftly. The swift cutting of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerves in the brain responsible for pain. Thus the animal does not feel pain. The movements and withering that happen to the animal after the cut is made are not due to pain, but due to the contraction and relaxation of the muscles deficient in blood. The prophet (peace be upon him) also taught Muslims neither to sharpen the blade of the knife in front of the animal nor to slaughter an animal in front of others of its own kind.


    scientific reason...


    Many allegations have been made that Islamic slaughter is not humane to animals. However, Professor Schultz and his colleague Dr. Hazim of the Hanover University, Germany, proved through an experiment, using an electroencephalograph (EEG) and electrocardiogram (ECG) that *Islamic slaughter is THE humane method of slaughter* and captive bolt stunning, practiced by the Western method, causes severe pain to the animal. The results surprised many.


    Experimental Details:

    1. Several electrodes were surgically implanted at various points of the skull of all animals, touching the surface of thebrain.

    2. The animals were allowed to recover for several weeks.

    3. Some animals were slaughtered by making a swift, deep incision with a sharp knife on the neck cutting the jugular veins and carotid Arteries of both sides; as also the trachea and esophagusHalal (Islamic) Method.

    4. Some animals were stunned using a captive bolt pistol humane slaughter, electric shocks by the western method.

    5. During the experiment, EEG and ECG were recorded on all animals to record the condition of the brain and heart during the course of slaughter and stunning.



    Results and Discussion:

    I - Halal Method (Islamic Method)

    1. The first three seconds from the time of Islamic slaughter as recorded on the EEG did not show any change from the graph before slaughter, thus indicating that the animal did not feel any pain during or immediately after the incision.

    2. For the following 3 seconds, the EEG recorded a condition of deep sleep - unconsciousness. This is due to a large quantity of blood gushing out from the body.

    3. After the above mentioned 6 seconds, the EEG recorded zero level, showing no feeling of pain at all.

    4. As the brain message (EEG) dropped to zero level, the heart was still pounding and the body convulsing vigorously (a reflex action of the spinal cord) driving maximum blood from the body: resulting in hygienic meat for the consumer.

    II - Western method by C.B.P. Stunning

    1. The animals were apparently unconscious soon after stunning.

    2. EEG showed severe pain immediately after stunning.

    3. The hearts of the animal stunned by C.B.P. stopped beating earlier as compared to those of the animals slaughtered according to the Halal method resulting in the retention of more blood inthe meat. This in turn is unhygienic for the consumer.

    (Many thanks to MSO - University of Miami)



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    sirajstc

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    bia,dï i;a;aj wdydr wkqNj lsÍu ;ykï fkdlr we;af;a ukao@ tfia;a fkdue;s kï bia,dï ks¾udxY wdydr muKla wkqNj lsÍu wkqu; fkdlf<a ukao@ fuh wo fndfyda wkH wd.ñlhska úiska u;= lrkq ,nk m%Yakhls' tneúka fï m%Yakhg úoHdkql+, yd ;¾ldkaú; ms<s;=rla oSu ldf,daÑ; hehs is;=Ks'

    uq,skau yd fl<skau wm lshkakg ´fka bia,dï tla wx. iïmQ¾K m%fhda.sl cSjk l%uhla nj':yes: tneúka wkH wd.ïj, fyda fjk;a fjk;a isoaOdka;j, we;s lreKq" woyia" wjjdo" Wmfoia jeks lsisjla bia,duhg wE|d .ekSug fyda l=,shg f.k bia,duhg we;=<;a lsÍug lsisÿ Wjukdjla fkdue;' th úYaj idOdrK úYaùh oyuls" cSjk l%uhls'

    fï nj w,a,dya w,a l=¾wdkfha 5 jeks mßÉfPaofha 3 jeks mdGfhka fufia wjOdrKh lr isáhs'

    —wo osk Tn fjkqfjka Tnf.a oyu wx. iïmQ¾K lf<ñ' ;jo uu Tn fjkqfjka uf.a wkq.%yh" wdYs¾jdo wx. iïmQ¾K lf<ñ' ;jo Tn fjkqfjka bia,dï oyu Tnf.a ud¾f.damfoaYh f,i f;dard .;af;ñ'˜:yes:

    tfia kï bia,dï O¾uh" fï f,dalfha ´kEu wiail uq,a,l cSj;ajk ´kEu ñksfil=g lsisÿ ielhlska yd wmyiq;djhlska f;drj wkq.ukh lsÍug yels úh hq;=hs' wrdìfha ldka;dr mßirhl cSj;a jk ckhkag fukau" bkaoshdj" Y%S ,xldj jeks lDIsld¾ñl mßirhl cSj;ajk ckhkag;a lsisÿ ielhlska f;drj yDoh idCIshg tlÕj bia,dï wkq.ukh lsÍug yels úh hq;=h'

    fï ksid w,a,dya" ks¾udxY wdydr muKla wkqNj l< hq;= hehs iSudjla we;s fldg bia,dï O¾uh wkq.ukh lrk uqia,sïjreka wmyiq;djhg m;a lf<a ke;':yes:

    ñksid kï i;ajhd i¾j NlaIl i;ajfhls' :Dtu ksid ñksidf.a wdydr cS¾K moaO;sh Ydl wdydrhg fukau udxY wdydrhg o WÑ; jk mßos k¾udKh ù we;' :yes:ks¾udxY wdydr muKla wkqNj lrk i;=kaf.a wdydr cS¾K moaO;sh ks¾udKh ù we;af;a yqfola ks¾udxY wdydrhg WÑ; jk mßosh' tfukau Tjqkaf.a uqLfha msysgd we;s oka; moaO;sh o i¾j NlaIl ñksidf.a oka; moaO;shg jvd b÷rdu fjkiah' tkï wdydr weUÍug yd ;e,Sug muKla WÑ; jk mßosh'

    tkuq;a ñksidf.a oka; moaO;sh úúO o;a j¾. j,ska iukaú; fõ' :Dtkï wdydr lene,sj,g lemSu i|yd lDka;l o;a o wdydr l=vd len,sj,g bÍu i|yd rokl o;a o wdydr ;e,Sug yd weUÍug iqÿiq jk mßos pd¾jl yd mqrYapd¾jl o;a o jevqKq ñksfil=f.a oka; moaO;sfha olskakg ,efí':yes::cool::yes:lDka;l yd rokl o;a ;shqKq jk w;r" pd¾jl yd mqrYapd¾jl o;a me;e,s mDIaGhkaf.ka hqla; fõ'

    ñksid yqfola ks¾udxY - Ydl NlaIl cSúfhl= jQfha kï - ñksidf.a oka; moaO;sh Ydl NlaIl i;=ka hk yrl=kaf.a t¿jkaf.a fuka o;a moaO;shla úh hq;=hs' tkï wdydr weUÍug yd ;e,Sug muKla iqÿiq o;a moaO;shla ñksid i;= úh hq;=hs' kuq;a Bg fjkia jQ o;a o Tyqg we;'

    fï wkQj n,k l, ñksid i;aj udxY wkqNj lsÍu úoHdkql+,hs' :yes:th ñksia iajNdjhg mgyeks fkdfõ' tkuq;a bia,dï iEu if;l=u wdydrhg .ekSug wkque;sh ,nd oS ke;' iQlr udxY bia,dï ;ykï fldg we;' tfukau ovhï lr wkqNj lrk i;=kaf.a udxY ^fldá" j,iqka" isxyhka" jeks i;=kaf.a udxY& wkqNj lsÍu bia,dï ;ykï fldg we;':yes: fï ksid i;ajdydr .ekSfuka ;sßika fr!ø .;s .=K ñksid ;=< we;s fõ hehs we;euqka k.k ;¾l o ì| jefÜ';)

    fï úYajh uejQ w,a,dya ñksidf.a m%fhdackh i|yd úYajfha we;s wfkl=;a iEu fohlau ujd we;' tajdhska iuyrla foaj,a wkqNj lsÍug;a" iuyrla foaj,a N=la;s ú|Sug;a" w,a,dya ñksidg wkque;sh ,nd oS we;' fï nj w,al=¾wdkfha fndfyda ;ekaj, wjOdrKh flf¾':cool:

    —isõmdjQka ueõfõ;a" ^w,a,dya& Tyqh' tys Tng WKqiqï ^we÷ï& o wfkal úO m%;s,dN o we;' ;jo tys Tng nqoskakg wdydr o we;'˜ ^Y= w,al=¾wdkh 16- 5:cool:

    —;jo Tyq Tng .uka lsÍu msKsi ukialdka; f,i wYajhka" fldg¿jka" nQrejka ueõfõh' ;jo Tyq Tn fkdokakd fndfyda foa ujd we;'˜ ^Y= w,al=¾wdkh 16- 8:cool:

    ;jo Tyqh" ^Tng& id.rh N=la;s ú|skakg ie<eiqfõ' thska Tn kejqï uDÿ udxY ^u;aihka& wkqNj lrkafkah' ;jo jákd m<|kdjka thska Tn u;= lr .kafkah''''˜ ^Y= w,al=¾wdkh 16 14:cool:

    fuf,i i;ajdydr wkqNj lsÍug bia,dï wkqu; l<d muKla fkdj" wkqNj lsÍu i|yd iqÿiq i;ajhka l=ulao@ tajdhska lskï fldgia o wkqNj l< hq;af;a@ tajd wkqNj lsÍu i|yd ilia lr.kafka flfiao@ hkdos ish,a, b;d iqmeyeos<sj bia,dï W.kajhs' :cool:

    —^bfíu iajdNdúl f,i& ñh .sh ^i;=ka& f,a leá;s" iQlr udxY" w,a,dyaf.a kdufhka f;drj l=¾ndka ^>d;kh& lrk ,o f., ñßld uereKq" myr ld uereKq" ìu jeà uereKq" wxj,ska wek uereKq" jk i;=ka imd lEfuka uereKq i;=kaf.a udxY wkqNj lsÍug ;ykïh' kuq;a ksis f,i l=¾ndka lrk ,o tajd yer'˜ ^Y= w,al=¾wdkh 5( 3&':yes:

    kshfmd;= wdOdrfhka ovhï lr cSj;a jk mCISka wkqNj lsÍu bia,dï ;ykï fldg we;' Wod( rdcd,shd" Wl=iaid" .srjd" nluQKd wdoS mlaCISka':yes:

    ovhï o;a we;s i;=ka wkqNj lsÍu o bia,dï ;ykï fldg we;' Wod( n<,d" n,a,d" fldáhd" isxyhd" j÷rd wdoS i;=ka':yes:

    .jhd iyd Tgqjd yer m%jdykh i|yd Ndú;d lrk i;=ka wkqNj lsÍug o bia,dï wkque;sh oS ke;' Wod( nQrejd" fldg¿jd" w,s we;=ka wdosh':yes:

    yQkka" lerfmd;a;ka" l=yqUqjka jeks fï i;=ka o wkqNj lsÍu bia,dï ;ykï fldg we;':yes:

    khs" i¾mhka" lnrf.dhka" lsUq,ka" jeks Wr.hka o wkqNj lsÍu bia,dï ;ykï fldg we;' tfukau osh f.dv foflysu cSj;a jk WNh cSùka wkqNj lsÍug o bia,dï ys wkque;shla ke;':yes:

    fï whqßka wkqNj lsÍug iqÿiq fkdiqÿiq wdydr l=ula oehs fmkajd ÿka bia,dï bka fkdkej;s" tajd l=¾ndka lrkafka ke;skï >d;kh l< hq;af;a flfia oehs fmkajd fohs' u;aihka l=¾ndka lsÍug wjYH fkdjk w;r wfkl=;a y<d,a ^wkqu;& jQ i;=ka l=¾ndka lsÍfï oS wksjd¾hfhkau w,a,dyaf.a kdufhka th isÿ l< hq;= fõ' fï nj w,al=¾wdkfha fndfyda ;ekaj, i|yka ù we;' WodyrKhla jYfhka by;ska i|yka lr we;s 5( 3 mdGh oelaúh yelsh':cool:

    if;l= l=¾ndka lsÍu i|yd b;du;a ;shqKq wdhqOhla ^msyshla& Ndú;d l< hq;= fõ' Wf.a f., yryd osfjk m%Odk kyr is|Sfuka l=¾ndka isÿ l< hq;= fõ' :yes:fufia l=¾ndka lsÍu ksid Wf.a isref¾ ixirKh fjñka we;s reêr ish,a, msg;g jykh fõ' fï ksid Wf.a isref¾ we;s fndfydauhla úI îc Wf.a isrefrka ;=rka ù hhs':cool:

    ;jo fï whqßka >d;kh lsÍu" l=¿ f.ähla jeks wúhlska m%ydr t,a, fldg >d;kh lsÍug jvd b;du;a wvq fõokdjla i;dg oefkk nj kùk úoHdfjka Tmamq lr we;':yes::cool::yes: fuf,i l=¾ndka fldg wkqNj lsÍug bia,dï l<;a i;d mk msáka isá;a oS Wf.a isrefrka fldgia lmd bj;a fldg wdydr i|yd .ekSug bia,dï wkqu; oS ke;':cool:

    bia,dï fufia i;a;aj wdydr wkqNj lsÍu kS;Hdkql+,j lr we;s kuq;a we;eï weoys,s yd úYajdihkag wkQj i;ajdydr .ekSu uyd mdmhla f,i ie,fla' :yes:tjeks wd.ñl b.ekaùï j,g wkQj m%dK >d;kh jQ l,S m%Odk mdmhkaf.ka tlls' Tjqkaf.a u;hg wkQj ñksidg fukau i;=kago cSj;a ùfï whs;sh ;sìh hq;= njh' tneúka m%dK >d;kh lsÍu Wiia ukila we;s ukqIH;ajhg fkdTìk ls%hdjla nj Tjqyq ;¾l lr;s'

    tfia kï m,sfndaO kdYl Ndú;d lsÍu uyd mjls' :yes:ukao m,sfndaO kdYl ksid fndfyda m%dK keiS hk neúks' :yes:^mkq& fnfy;a îu mdmhls':yes: ukao ^mkq& fnfy;a îu ksid mKqjka cSùka keiS hk neúks' :yes:ysfia Wl=Kka urd oeóu mjls' :yes:ta m%dK >d;khla isÿjk neúks' :yes:ëjr l¾udka;fha kehe,Su mjls' :yes:ukao m%dK >d;khg iDcqju yjq,a jk neúks' hqoaO lsÍu mjls':yes: ukao hqoaOh ksid úYd, ñksia >d;khla isÿfõ':yes: fufia tlska tl lSfjd;a Tjqyq wmg wka;jdoS hhs yxjvq .eish yel':baffled: ke;skï uQ,O¾ujdoSka hhs lshkak yelsh:baffled:' ke;skï fÉ;kdj wkQj tajd mjla fkdjk nj ;¾lhka f.k yer oelaúh yelsh':baffled:

    ;j;a iuyre mjikafka .j >d;kh isÿ fkdl< hq;= njhs' :confused:Tjqkaf.a ukig wkQj u;aihka ^ud¿ka&" l=l=<ka" t¿jka jeks i;=ka >d;kh lsÍu fyda tajd wkqNj lsÍu fyda uyd mjla f,i fkdfmfka' :rolleyes:bjqka bosßm;a lrk ;¾lh kï" .jhd f.dú;ekg Woõ jk i;ajfhls" Wf.a u, wms fmdfydr f,i Ndú;d lruq' ta ksid .j >d;k Tjqyq fy<d olsk w;r we;euqka .j uia j¾ckh lr;s':rolleyes:

    ienúkau wms idjOdkj l,amkd lr ne¨fjd;a" .jhd wmg - ñksidg hehs lshd lsisjla fkdfok kuq;a ñksid úiska tajd .jhd f.ka úúO l%fudamdhka yryd ,nd .kakd nj fmfka' WodyrK jYfhka lsß .;af;d;a" ñksid .jhdf.ka lsß ,nd.ekSu i|yd .jhka wNsckkh lrhs' lsß ksIamdokh i|yd úfYaIs; wdydr .jhdg ,ndfohs' tfukau lsisu .jfhla ñksid .ek is;d" ñksid Wfoid u, my lrkafka ke;' kuq;a ñksid tajd /ia fldg f.du fmdfydr jYfhka Ndú;d lr;s':rofl:

    idudkHfhka lDIsld¾ñl lghq;= j,oS nyq,j Ndú;d lrkafka ó yrl=kah' kQ;kfha oS ta i|yd g%elag¾ jeks hka;% Ndú;hg .efka' fï wkQj l,amkd lr n,k l, .j >d;khg tfrysj bosßm;a lrk Bkshd ;¾l ú;¾l mjd ksr¾:l ksiaidr tlla nj ukiska Wiia ukqIHhdg f;areï hkq we;' wfkla w;g .j >d;kh lsÍu ksid .jhd j| ùfï ;¾ckhg ,la ù ke;' ,la jkafka o ke;':yes::D:yes:

    kQ;k úoHdjg wkQj ñksid" i;d isjqmdjqkag muKla fkdj .ia fld<ka j,g o m%dKh we;s nj Tmamq lr we;' kuq;a fï nj oekg jir 1426 fmr bia,dï mjid we;' ñksid we;=¿ i;d isjqmdjqkag o cSj;a ùu i|yd wdydr" c,h" jd;h" wdf,dalh" úgñka" Lksc ,jk hkdosh wjYH fõ':yes::cool:

    tfukau Ydlj,g o cSj;a ùu i|yd ta iEu tllau wjYH fõ' ñksid we;=¿ i;d isjqmdjqka fuka .ia fld<ka o ;u j¾.hd fnda lrhs' tfukau ñksid we;=¿ i;d isjqmdjqkag fuka .ia fld<kaj,g o yeÕSï we;s nj;a" oefkk nj;a" kùk úoHdfjka Tmamq lr we;' .ia fld<kaj,g o Y%jKh l< yel' fõokdjka oefka' kuq;a fjkilg we;af;a .ia fld<kaj,g wfkl=;a i;=ka fuka ießirkakg fkdyels ùu muKs'

    fï wkQj Ydl hkq mK we;s cSúhls' tajdg wdhqI ld,hla we;' ál l,la fï f,dafla cSj;a ù ñh hhs' fï wkQj l,amkd lr ne¨fjd;a .ia fld<ka lemSu o m%dK >d;khla jkq we;' kuq;a i;=kag fuka .ia fld<ka j,g m%n, bkaøshhka fkdue;s ksid tajd wkqNj lsÍfuys jrola keyeæ hs flfkl= ;¾l l< yelsh' tfyu kï weúoskakg neß" wx. úl," w| ìysß" .jhka >d;kh fldg wkqNj lsÍu tjekakkaf.a ;¾lhg wkQj mjla fkdjkafkah':rolleyes:

    we;eï wd.ñl ,íêlhka Ydlj,g m%dK we;ehs úYajdi fkdlr;s' fuu u; jdoh yßhg —lkak ´kE jqkyu lnrhd;a ;,f.dhd lr.kakd jf.a˜ :rofl:l;dj yd iudkh' tfia kuq;a tu wd.fï mQcljre iajlSh oyu" kùk úoHdjg wkql+, nj;a" úoHdkql+, nj;a f,dalhdg ta;a;= .ekaùug ck udOH yryd úYd, mßY%uhl fhoS isá;s':cool:

    ñksid we;=¿ iEu i;ajfhl=u ;u meje;au i|yd leue;af;ka fyda wlue;af;ka" oekqj;aj fyda fkdoekqj;aj m%dK >d;kfha kshe,s isák nj Wiia ukila we;s ñksidg jegysh hq;=h' fuh kùk úoHdfjka Tmamq lr we;s i;Hhls':yes: kuq;a bia,dï muKhs fï m%dK >d;kh l< hq;af;a flfiao@ l=ula i|ydo@ lskï i;=ka >d;kh l< hq;af;ao@ :yes::D:yes:hkdos jYfhka lsishï u. fmkaùula iSudjla ,nd oS we;af;a' fï ksid lsisÿ j. úNd.hlska f;dr" olsk olsk i;=ka úfkdaodxYhla f,i ovhï fldg >d;kh lsÍu bia,dï b÷rd ;ykï fldg we;':no: i;=ka muKla fkdj .ia fld<ka mjd wkjYH f,i lmd fldgd úkdY lsÍug bia,dï wkqn, fkdfohs':no:

    fï wkQj Wiia ukila we;s ukqIHfhl=g mila fjkjd we;s kQ;k f,dalfha ´kEu rgl cSj;a jk ´kEu mqoa.,fhl=g lsisÿ mels,Sulska f;drj úYajdifhka hq;=j m%dfhda.slj wkq.ukh l< yels ud¾f.damfoaYh bia,dï nj' oeka b;ska j; ÿrg;a ksiaidr ;¾l ú;¾l bosßm;a lrñka .;dkq.;slj uqL mrïmrdfjka mej; tk wdrïNhla" uq,dY%hla ke;s ms<sfj;la oyula wkq.ukh lrkjdo@ ke;skï iajNdjhg tlÕ jQ;a" ms<smeoSug myiq jQ;a oyula wkq.ukh lrkjdo@

    Wiia ukila we;s ljqre;a fï .ek yqol,dj is;d ne,Sug jà'

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    1st Thank For replying,


    1. better wording is minimize pain ..is it not relieve? am I right? relieving is diminish existing pain is'nt it ?
    sister Your Style show either you are a school teacher and i am student...
    anyhow it good to rectify but only when very serious mistake, not all the time

    If relieving is diminish existing pain so what minimizing differ from it.it also existing pain miniminzing
    re·lieve (r-lv)
    tr.v. re·lieved, re·liev·ing, re·lieves

    1 : to bring or give relief,
    1. To cause a lessening or alleviation of: relieved all his symptoms; relieved the tension.
    2. To free from pain, anxiety, or distress.

    why you are finding mistakes..

    2.
    This is a lie(100%)
    nerves are supplied by arteries ..cutting jugular vein would not accomplish above need
    to discontinue pain either
    • nerves should be denervated or
    • desensitized pain receptor areas .
    • body's protective mechanisms tries maintain blood supply to vital organs such as brain until the last moment by reducing blood flow to large organs like skin & intestine
    (prove if im wrong)
    & cutting a vein leading to slow & painful death

    i Know there is a mistake in my last post, i use no pain instead of less pain in islamic method.
    if you read the whole answer before start commenting point become clearer to you see islamic method.
    making a swift, deep incision with a sharp knife on the neck cutting the
    jugular veins and carotid Arteries of both sides; is the Islamic Method.

    "The Islamic way of slaughtering animals to make their meat lawful was chosen because it was the quickest and
    least painful way to take the animal's life.
    ruling are :
    the animal must be healthy and permissible to eat
    a sane and competent Muslim must perform the act
    a very sharp knife must be used, to facilitate rapid and painless cutting
    the slaughter should not take place within view of other animals
    the animal being slaughtered should not see the knife
    the Muslim performing the cut (zabih or dhabih) must invoke God (Allah) by saying, “In the name of God” and “God is the Greatest” at the time of the slaughter
    the cut should not be so deep as to sever the spinal cord or head



    3. another false statement

    Cutting a vein does not directly reduce the blood flow to muscles. Its a due to reducing cardiac output in response to lowering blood volume in the circulation.Compensatory mechanisms tries to maintain require to pump blood in to organs inspite of lowering blood volume until a point where blood supply to organs cannot be maintained.
    the severance of the trachea, esophagus, and the jugular veins in conjunction with the carotid arteries, which cause a rapid gush of blood to flow from the system. have you not seen any time how rapidly blood flow outside from animal boody in islamic slaughtering.

    This method is indeed the most humane method to slaughter an animal to make use of its meat. This is also the only method endorsed by the congress of the United States of America, as mentioned in section 1901 and 1902 (b), Chapter 48, Title 7, in which is written the following:

    The Congress finds that the use of humane methods in the slaughter of livestock prevents needless suffering; results in safer and better working conditions for persons engaged in the slaughtering industry; brings about improvement of products and economies in slaughtering operations; and produces other benefits for producers, processors, and consumers which tend to expedite an orderly flow of livestock and livestock products in interstate and foreign commerce. It is therefore declared to be the policy of the United States that the slaughtering of livestock and the handling of livestock in connection with slaughter shall be carried out only by humane methods.


    This is called incomplete decapitation :nerd:
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    is this the Islamic way?

    I just wanna know..one my Islamic friend &
    as you quote early as gods word is bit different aren't they.I m surpriced
    Please Answer to the point no need of huge cut & paste stuff :dull:
    That was just a written mistake, i after search remove it, any how quran forbiding of slaughtering is given in following verses.

    Forbidden unto you (for food) are carrion and blood and swine-flesh,
    and that which hath been dedicated unto any other than Allah,
    and the strangled,
    and the dead through beating,
    and the dead through falling from a height,
    and that which hath been killed by (the goring of) horns,
    and the devoured of wild beasts,
    saving that which ye make lawful (by the death-stroke),
    and that which hath been immolated unto idols.
    And (forbidden is it) that ye swear by the divining arrows.
    This is an abomination. This day are those who disbelieve in despair of (ever harming) your religion;
    so fear them not, fear Me! This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favour unto you, and have chosen for you as religion AL-ISLAM. Whoso is forced by hunger, not by will, to sin: (for him) lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (Quran 5, 3)

    sister i am not a medical student and also this is not my profession but i have some techincal know how about the topic and can understand what is saying about...May be your knowledge is more in this field but i can claim that Islamic method of slaughter is less painful for animal than any other method used for slaughtering, you can compare it .
     
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    yes, as you said when experiment is biased no point of talking about the methodology
    Being bias is proving hypothesis

    Stranded experiment setup is to prove the null hypothesis, not the hypothesis :.
    what you are saying sister they have check, realize compare both method of slaughtering and impact on the animal. they are not the student like us they are responsible people and doctor and associated with a famous university...
    your style showing either you are scientist...
     

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    what you are saying sister they have check, realize compare both method of slaughtering and impact on the animal. they are not the student like us they are responsible people and doctor and associated with a famous university...
    your style showing either you are scientist...

    brother i think amila is not sister:)
     

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    what you are saying sister they have check, realize compare both method of slaughtering and impact on the animal. they are not the student like us they are responsible people and doctor and associated with a famous university...
    your style showing either you are scientist...

    Hafizaad what is the statistical null hypothesis? do tell me in your own words?
     

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    'Clearly suffering'

    The method of animal slaughter used by Jews and Muslims should be banned immediately, according to an independent advisory group. The Farm Animal Welfare Council (FAWC), which advises the government on how to avoid cruelty to livestock, says the way Kosher and Halal meat is produced causes severe suffering to animals.
    Both the Jewish and Muslim religions demand that slaughter is carried out with a single cut to the throat, rather than the more widespread method of stunning with a bolt into the head before slaughter.
    Kosher and Halal butchers deny their method of killing animals is cruel and have expressed anger over the recommendation.
    'Clearly suffering'
    One worshipper at the Central London Mosque told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "Everything about the Islamic way of life is under attack so it makes you wonder if this is actually about humanity to animals."
    Peter Jinman, president of the British Veterinary Association said vets respected people's religious beliefs, but urged Muslims to be respectful of animals too.


    "We're looking at what is acceptable in the moral and ethical society we live in," he told Today.
    FAWC said it wanted an end to the exemption currently allowed for Kosher and Halal meat from the legal requirement to stun animals first.
    It says cattle can take up to two minutes to bleed to death - amounting to an abuse of the animals.
    "This is a major incision into the animal and to say that it doesn't suffer is quite ridiculous," said FAWC chairwoman, Dr Judy MacArthur Clark.
    Compassion in World Farming backed the call, saying: "We believe that the law must be changed to require all animals to be stunned before slaughter."
    'Way of life'
    Muslims and Jews argue that their long established method of slaughter results in a sudden loss of blood from the head, causing animals to feel

    virtually nothing.



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2977086.stm
     

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    Brother your Quoted vedio is very much offensive, abusing and showing cruelity for Animals...this behavior with animals and style of slaughtering is not permited in islam.islam has given a complete proceedure and conditions for slaughtering animal so that animal feel very low pain and also suitable for health..

    No. No. This thread has nothing to do with Islam. And I was not talking about Islam.

    The theme here and thread is about 'Mansa Ha Nirmansa Aahara'.

    To whom is it 'offensive' as you say?

    'Abusing'? Who is abusing whom? I don't know. I did not refer to Muslims. You are mistaken.

    'Showing cruelty to animals' - That is exactly what I wanted to point out.

    I was only saying that eating meat is better avoided.
     

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    Hafizaad what is the statistical null hypothesis ? do tell me in your own words ?

    i know you are learned man but dont know why you always think for other they are ignorant. H0 hypothesis is statistical test to show that no variation exists between variables, or that a single variable is no different than zero. .More they also assumes that any kind of difference or significance you see in a set of data is due to chance or according to book defination it sample observations result purely from chance.
    anyhow i dont make debate with you on this topic of slaughtering animal method of islam as you have accepted in one of you post that islamic method of slaughtering is favourable for animal and human health.
    Please also your friendz ex etc.
     

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    No. No. This thread has nothing to do with Islam. And I was not talking about Islam.

    The theme here and thread is about 'Mansa Ha Nirmansa Aahara'.

    To whom is it 'offensive' as you say?

    'Abusing'? Who is abusing whom? I don't know. I did not refer to Muslims. You are mistaken.

    'Showing cruelty to animals' - That is exactly what I wanted to point out.

    I was only saying that eating meat is better avoided.

    brother sorry i have used these words not for you but for people who behave with animal like vedio show.vedio is more offensive for viewer when we see how cruely they behave and abuse the innocent animals..
    sorry for misunderstanding...i know the purpose of video but all people not behave like them ....
     

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    anyhow i dont make debate with you on this topic of slaughtering animal method of islam as you have accepted in one of you post that islamic method of slaughtering is favourable for animal and human health.
    Please also your friendz ex etc.

    Always twist facts and lie so boldly that all the others want to throw up !
    shame on you!

    where did Mononoke accepted Halal is better???

    Dont lie! it shows your character.

    In the article Som MUSLIM GUY whose name IS AHMED who FAVOURS and PRACTISE Halal killing showed a 30 year old study.. and we all know muslims never lie.
    :lol:
     

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    i know you are learned man but dont know why you always think for other they are ignorant. H0 hypothesis is statistical test to show that no variation exists between variables, or that a single variable is no different than zero. .More they also assumes that any kind of difference or significance you see in a set of data is due to chance or according to book defination it sample observations result purely from chance.
    anyhow i dont make debate with you on this topic of slaughtering animal method of islam as you have accepted in one of you post that islamic method of slaughtering is favourable for animal and human health.
    Please also your friendz ex etc.

    Is stats any closer to truth?
    NO <- big no

    Ex:
    Take a coin and toss it in the air when it lands record it's state.

    So whats the truth? A coin can land in 3 different states!
    1. Heads up
    2. Tails up
    3. Standing

    now go through your statistical data(you gathered from the test) and find the 3rd one:P
    you can't thats because stats aren't true all the time it just gives what is possible to happen :D :rofl:
     

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    where did Mononoke accepted Halal is better???

    Dont lie! it shows your character.
    :lol:

    You all the time showing anger i think you are the patient of blood pressure...
    don't mind ...life is only a single chance...
    see where i have told that mononoke accepted halal is better .read my post again and confirm it from mononoke.
     

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    You all the time showing anger i think you are the patient of blood pressure...
    don't mind ...life is only a single chance...
    see where i have told that mononoke accepted halal is better .read my post again and confirm it from mononoke.

    What about what i said doesnt it make your argument False?
     
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    What you are trying to prove and the way you are going to prove them have serious weaknesses, its better to leave science as it is its logic and its proofs are based of what is witnessed or rather what is left to observe it seems correct but its not .. if you can understand some out of the shell of scientific proof. Proving 100% mathematically is correct but stats are not MATH! its just the most probable to happen if you drop others talking about one single thing that is witnessed more you'll be mislead and most scientists were!
    That's how most of the things in science are proved wrong(e.g. Newtonian Mechanics, its not totally wrong but amendments were made by Einstein)
    Same for all those; science is not in books its all around you but you cant observe it only with 5 ways of input ..! and even when those inputs don't even give correct data!
     
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    i have a suggestion for islamic pundits. As Islam favours peace, n halal way is the least painfull way of killing a person why dont you start killing the murderers, homosexuals in halal way except throwing stones at them :lol::lol::lol: