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well if death is the penalty? is it peaceful? thats what when ur a Muslim no way of turning back.. well if you save this for after life why do u kill people in the name of the God? well its clear its no religion of peace or freedom of choosing life the way you want..

I have watched those videos ! And including the full the one of zakir naiks 'every muslim should be a terrorist' ! If you watched it fully he says every muslim should stand up for good and if a criminial sees him he should be 'terrorized' ! Digest the message implied !

I can also post videos of radicals from every religion and then you will say , well they are not following the religious teachings ! Same thins with those radicals in the 'edited' video ! With all the scary music and all ! Lame dude

Well yeah penalty of leaving islam is death but to leave islam you have accept it first ! You have to become muslime wholeheartedly by inspecting the quran and the studing the religion ! You have to become muslim first by yourself - not because it is culture or your parents are muslim - and then if you accept islam you are making a covenant/pact with God !

We say yes the price of breaking your pact with God is death,religion is not some cloth to wear it when you want and throw it when you dont want ! It is a pact you have to make with God and the price of leaving it is severe !

There is no compulsion to enter Islam ! You can enter if you want to or stay away if dont want ! People who become muslim know this rule , and still the most number of people are becoming muslims , and especially in the west !
 

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well if death is the penalty? is it peaceful? thats what when ur a Muslim no way of turning back.. well if you save this for after life why do u kill people in the name of the God? well its clear its no religion of peace or freedom of choosing life the way you want..

even you used the word penalty....penalty means punishment....:oo:

are you saying the religion which is named peace itself would kill people unnecessarily....:dull:

killing innocent people is not allowed....this includes non-believers...but once you become a believer then try to turn back....according to Islam...this person is doing a very grave sin...and to stop this person from going to hell when they die...

they are given this penalty or punishment....

understand....?


and yes Islam is not Buddhism....we do not believe we are reborn...we die that is it....and if you die a traitor to Islam you suffer in your after life forever....which is better...living life in paradise...or suffering in Hell forever?....to a Muslim who sees some one turn away from this....like apostates is seeing a big waste....hence the punishment...to make them suffer on earth for short time...to enjoy heaven forever...:oo:
 
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    I have watched those videos ! And including the full the one of zakir naiks 'every muslim should be a terrorist' ! If you watched it fully he says every muslim should stand up for good and if a criminial sees him he should be 'terrorized' ! Digest the message implied !

    I can also post videos of radicals from every religion and then you will say , well they are not following the religious teachings ! Same thins with those radicals in the 'edited' video ! With all the scary music and all ! Lame dude

    Well yeah penalty of leaving islam is death but to leave islam you have accept it first ! You have to become muslime wholeheartedly by inspecting the quran and the studing the religion ! You have to become muslim first by yourself - not because it is culture or your parents are muslim - and then if you accept islam you are making a covenant/pact with God !

    We say yes the price of breaking your pact with God is death,religion is not some cloth to wear it when you want and throw it when you dont want ! It is a pact you have to make with God and the price of leaving it is severe !

    There is no compulsion to enter Islam ! You can enter if you want to or stay away if dont want ! People who become muslim know this rule , and still the most number of people are becoming muslims , and especially in the west !

    Not The Answer For My question.. i m not asking any thing about the video..

    if you cant read

    Apostasy in Islam
    what is the penalty of leaving islam?


    well if u are talking about conversations islam is lower than christinaty..
    well growth of islam is by babys coz they rebirth like animals .. 7women can be married .
    look @ this chart are there any conversations?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claims_to_be_the_fastest-growing_religion

    by 2050 all muslims will be dead lke africans without no food to eat..
     
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    Not The Answer For My question.. i m not asking any thing about the video..

    if you cant read

    Apostasy in Islam
    what is the penalty of leaving islam?

    don't put up an edited video and hang on to a single point....:lol::lol:

    penalty is given as punishment...you can't give a penalty to an innocent person....:oo:

    once again..according to Islam...a person who stays in Islam then leaves for any reason...for money...for life's pleasures etc...when they die....they will suffer in hell forever.....

    to give these people...and let them suffer for a short time on earth's temporary life...they can enjoy their after life in heaven forever....

    has this rule been ever used?....nope....:lol::lol:
     

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    ok....here goes nothing....i just don't want to ask these kinds of risk questions....these are my last ones....

    or according to Buddhism the life cycle is hellish...and only good end is to attain nirvana right?

    and it also says only male Buddhist monks can attain nirvana right?....

    so is being born a woman a form of curse or punishment....?

    and regardless of the answer for above...then why don't all Buddhist men try be monks and end this cycle?....:dull:

    and if this world is but an illusion why have jobs...or buy things?....why do business...basically why live at all....?

    or according to Buddhism the life cycle is hellish...and only good end is to attain nirvana right?
    Yes "Nirvana" is the ultimate achievement to end this life cycle.

    and it also says only male Buddhist monks can attain nirvana right?....
    This is wrong anyone can attend "Nirvana" even Buddah's step mother (Maha Pajapati Gotami
    ) attend "Nirvana".

    so is being born a woman a form of curse or punishment....?
    No.. this is totally wrong in Buddhism there's no such thing, Buddha describes always respect to women http://online.sfsu.edu/~rone/Buddhism/BuddhismParents/BuddhismParents.html

    and regardless of the answer for above...then why don't all Buddhist men try be monks and end this cycle?....
    That's their sin, it's hard to achieve "Nirvana", and only the person who discovers "Nirvana" knows that he attended it.

    and if this world is but an illusion why have jobs...or buy things?....why do business...basically why live at all....?
    Well if we born here we have to do something to live.. to find food to fulfill our desires.
     

    diamonddrago

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    Not The Answer For My question.. i m not asking any thing about the video..

    if you cant read

    Apostasy in Islam
    what is the penalty of leaving islam?


    well if u are talking about conversations islam is lower than christinaty..
    well growth of islam is by babys coz they rebirth like animals .. 7women can be married .
    look @ this chart are there any conversations?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claims_to_be_the_fastest-growing_religion

    by 2050 all muslims will be dead lke africans without no food to eat..

    that is in europe....lol.....not the whole world....:lol::lol:

    did you know cat Stevens...an American musician converted to Islam....so did MJ recently before he died....

    we have PLENTY of converts everyday..we get 135,000 actual converts per year and this in america alone....:lol::lol:


    http://www.islamfortoday.com/america01.htm

    there are plenty of sites that show biased views....and the hatred is very clear in them...so i would not trust it so much....:P

    and some famous ones.....lol

    http://www.suite101.com/external_link.cfm?elink=http://www.adherents.com/largecom/famconv_islam.html
     

    Tom Riddle

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    don't put up an edited video and hang on to a single point....:lol::lol:

    penalty is given as punishment...you can't give a penalty to an innocent person....:oo:

    once again..according to Islam...a person who stays in Islam then leaves for any reason...for money...for life's pleasures etc...when they die....they will suffer in hell forever.....

    to give these people...and let them suffer for a short time on earth's temporary life...they can enjoy their after life in heaven forever....

    has this rule been ever used?....nope....:lol::lol:



    So what you are basically doing is killing a person based on your own belief (which cannot be proven) that he will suffer in hell in his after life?

    You are not acknowledging that everyone is entitled to their own view. This is not tolerance.

    So someone says he believes in Islam. Then he says he doesn't. Then you go and kill him?

    Out of religion, do you think this would seem acceptable to any reasonable person?
     

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    or according to Buddhism the life cycle is hellish...and only good end is to attain nirvana right?
    Yes "Nirvana" is the ultimate achievement to end this life cycle.

    and it also says only male Buddhist monks can attain nirvana right?....
    This is wrong anyone can attend "Nirvana" even Buddah's step mother (Maha Pajapati Gotami
    ) attend "Nirvana".

    so is being born a woman a form of curse or punishment....?
    No.. this is totally wrong in Buddhism there's no such thing, Buddha describes always respect to women http://online.sfsu.edu/~rone/Buddhism/BuddhismParents/BuddhismParents.html

    and regardless of the answer for above...then why don't all Buddhist men try be monks and end this cycle?....
    That's their sin, it's hard to achieve "Nirvana", and only the person who discovers "Nirvana" knows that he attended it.

    and if this world is but an illusion why have jobs...or buy things?....why do business...basically why live at all....?
    Well if we born here we have to do something to live.. to find food to fulfill our desires.


    :):):):):):):)
     

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    In the attic...
    or according to Buddhism the life cycle is hellish...and only good end is to attain nirvana right?
    Yes "Nirvana" is the ultimate achievement to end this life cycle.

    and it also says only male Buddhist monks can attain nirvana right?....
    This is wrong anyone can attend "Nirvana" even Buddah's step mother (Maha Pajapati Gotami
    ) attend "Nirvana".

    so is being born a woman a form of curse or punishment....?
    No.. this is totally wrong in Buddhism there's no such thing, Buddha describes always respect to women http://online.sfsu.edu/~rone/Buddhism/BuddhismParents/BuddhismParents.html

    and regardless of the answer for above...then why don't all Buddhist men try be monks and end this cycle?....
    That's their sin, it's hard to achieve "Nirvana", and only the person who discovers "Nirvana" knows that he attended it.

    and if this world is but an illusion why have jobs...or buy things?....why do business...basically why live at all....?
    Well if we born here we have to do something to live.. to find food to fulfill our desires.

    :yes: :yes: :yes:

    you helped clear some doubts i had dude...thanx....
     

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    [and if this world is but an illusion why have jobs...or buy things?....why do business...basically why live at all....?

    That is for people who are not strong enough (like us :no:) to give up their materialistic pleasures. It means that if you are not willing to let go of these pleasures, you should do so peacefully without harming anyone according to the Dhamma.

    It is a compromise. What should be done ideally is to strive to achieve Nirvana
     

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    don't put up an edited video and hang on to a single point....:lol::lol:

    penalty is given as punishment...you can't give a penalty to an innocent person....:oo:

    once again..according to Islam...a person who stays in Islam then leaves for any reason...for money...for life's pleasures etc...when they die....they will suffer in hell forever.....

    to give these people...and let them suffer for a short time on earth's temporary life...they can enjoy their after life in heaven forever....

    has this rule been ever used?....nope....:lol::lol:

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    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/10/muslims-behead-christian-convert-from-islam-in-somalia.html

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    Dont Cover UP Accept IT..
     

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    So what you are basically doing is killing a person based on your own belief (which cannot be proven) that he will suffer in hell in his after life?

    You are not acknowledging that everyone is entitled to their own view. This is not tolerance.

    So someone says he believes in Islam. Then he says he doesn't. Then you go and kill him?

    Out of religion, do you think this would seem acceptable to any reasonable person?

    outside of my religion do i think this would be ok...no i don't....everyone has their own opinions....

    but you have to be a Muslim to see how sure we are of our own religion....its almost orgasmic...lol....

    so if someone left this religion they ARE doing a grave error...but so far...not many have left from Islam..

    and to this day...such measures are not taken place....

    there is a historic story to this thou....

    during the prophet's time there were many hypocrites...who pretended to be Muslims so that they can get close to prophet Muhammad and try to harm him....and when they felt they could not...they left Islam...

    in order to stop them God put down the verse in the Quran calling to kill anyone who entered Islam and left it again....as a way of stopping these kinds of people....:oo:

    that is why nobody does this to this day...but the law IS there.....
     

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    outside of my religion do i think this would be ok...no i don't....everyone has their own opinions....

    but you have to be a Muslim to see how sure we are of our own religion....its almost orgasmic...lol....

    so if someone left this religion they ARE doing a grave error...but so far...not many have left from Islam..

    and to this day...such measures are not taken place....

    there is a historic story to this thou....

    during the prophet's time there were many hypocrites...who pretended to be Muslims so that they can get close to prophet Muhammad and try to harm him....and when they felt they could not...they left Islam...

    in order to stop them God put down the verse in the Quran calling to kill anyone who entered Islam and left it again....as a way of stopping these kinds of people....:oo:

    that is why nobody does this to this day...but the law IS there.....

    So in short you believe it is OK simply because God said it was OK.

    Why couldn't God have killed them himself? It would have spared the people who embraced Islam genuinely, but left because they no longer believed in its concepts

    So if the threat is no longer there (of some hypocrite harming the Prophet), why doesn't God (or someone responsible) remove the verse? It serves no purpose (as you yourself mentioned) and just provides a convenient excuse for killing people.
     

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    Did you ignore the pictures for your convenience?

    What is your justification for this?

    If this was not a Muslim woman doing this would you consider it acceptable?
     

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    Not The Answer For My question.. i m not asking any thing about the video..

    if you cant read

    Apostasy in Islam
    what is the penalty of leaving islam?


    well if u are talking about conversations islam is lower than christinaty..
    well growth of islam is by babys coz they rebirth like animals .. 7women can be married .
    look @ this chart are there any conversations?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claims_to_be_the_fastest-growing_religion

    by 2050 all muslims will be dead lke africans without no food to eat..

    I have answered both ur questions on what is apostasy ,what and why the punishment for that is ! 7 women can be married ?Its 4 ! And just because it is allowed not all muslims are married to more than 1 ! In fact maybe only 5 or 10 percent !

    i dont think you can talk about the birthrates when china being a majority budhist country is the most populous country in the world !
     

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    Some of them are not islamic practices but brought about by culture ! For example capital punishment in Islam is not hanging but beheading and why dont you ask why ?! I received one of those mails , and 2 of those people where child molesters and murders ! Dont blindly cut and past ! And that pic with the baby , there is nothing liek that in islam ! If it is done it is done out of cultural ignorance ! I can also post pics of of maoist rebels and japanese army crimes from WW2 who were budhist , but yeah our argument is theological ! i hope so atleast !
     

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    I have answered both ur questions on what is apostasy ,what and why the punishment for that is ! 7 women can be married ?Its 4 ! And just because it is allowed not all muslims are married to more than 1 ! In fact maybe only 5 or 10 percent !

    i dont think you can talk about the birthrates when china being a majority budhist country is the most populous country in the world !

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China

    Read it.. China has meany religions..

    ok so how many kids are there in a average Muslim family? :oo:
     
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