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<blockquote data-quote="anamnlmslmn" data-source="post: 14624105" data-attributes="member: 453369"><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">You are wrong about the Judgement Day. I won't drag it as per your request.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">I've explained about the "Heaven" many times. The original dictionary meaning is "The sky or universe as seen from the earth; the firmament". In our religion, it talks about 7 heavens, one above the other (as layers). (<a href="http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1536135" target="_blank">http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1536135</a>)</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">In Quran, it says that the nearest heaven is adorned with stars.. Therefore, It is clear that when it talks about the creation of heaven, it's about the universe. (with that idea, someone might say that the whole universe known to science is within the nearest (first) heaven. But that is not very explicit). Sometimes, it is used figuratively. That is to say something is out of this "world". But in case of this topic, it is a clear reference to universe. Now, you have to note the human definition of universe, which says something like everything that exists (including the earth). But heaven is that of the universe except the earth, because we are "seeing" the heaven while staying on earth. The concept "universe" is not known to those people 1400 years ago. As a reference, it's clear that heaven means the rest of the universe. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"><u></u></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"><u>"Where" is the abode of Allah?</u></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">I gave an idea about this in the original post. Did you miss it?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">{{Expanding universe යනු fact එකක්. එම expanding universe එක reverse කලොත් (ගණිතමය ලෙස) එය singularity එකක් දක්වා යනවා. අයින්ස්ටයින්ගේ සාපේක්ෂතාවාදය අනුව time සහ space සම්බන්ධයි. ඒ අනුව මේ singularity එකට කලින් time එකක් නෑ. එතැනදී භෞතික විද්යාවෙ නීති සියල්ල බිඳ වැටෙනවා. මේ singularity එක ඇතිවෙන්න භෞතික විද්යාවේ නීති අනුව වැඩ කරන කිසිම ක්රියාවලියක් එතැනදී වැඩ කරන්නේ නෑ. එනිසා,<span style="color: Purple"> එම singularity එක ඇතිවිය හැක්කේ time සහ space වලට යටත් නොවන, එයට ඔබ්බෙන් ඇති ක්රියාවලියකටය.</span> එවැනි දෙයක් ගැන මිනිසාට ලැබී ඇති එකම තොරතුර දෙවියන් ගැන පමණි. Expanding universe ගැන පැහැදිලිව කුරානයේ ඇත. Big bang වලට සමරුපී විස්තරයක් ඇත. මෙවැනි දෙයක් අවුරුදු 1400කට කලින් සිටි මිනිසෙකුට හීනෙන් පවා සිතීම පුදුමයි. විද්යාව පවා මෑතක් වෙනකන් විශ්වාස කලේ static universe බොරුවයි. එය බිඳ වැටී ඇත. එහෙත් කුරානයේ කී දේ එසේම පවතී. මෙය අපට දෙවියන්ව විශ්වාස කරන්නට රුකුල් දෙන එක් සාධකයක් පමණි.}}</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">Here I gave the idea that Allah is beyond the limits of time and space. Beacuse Allah is the creator of everything including time and space. Allah is not dependent on anything including time and space. He doesn't "need" a "space" to "stay". It is clearly said in Quran that "there is nothing like unto him". So, He is not similar to any creation. He's not in any need of anything, unlike the creation. These are tought in our religion. The questions we ask regarding the creation are not valid with Allah. Therefore, your question is invalid. I'm not sure how much you will grasp from this...</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">We have a belief that there is a life in the "grave". Even that person was burnt to ashes, that life is there for him. We can say something like, it is in a different dimension. According to the persons actions in this world, that life would be either peaceful or painful. Some basic questions are asked in there also, at the beginning. There are many details. I don't think it's useful for you.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="anamnlmslmn, post: 14624105, member: 453369"] [SIZE="5"][COLOR="DarkGreen"] You are wrong about the Judgement Day. I won't drag it as per your request. I've explained about the "Heaven" many times. The original dictionary meaning is "The sky or universe as seen from the earth; the firmament". In our religion, it talks about 7 heavens, one above the other (as layers). ([url]http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1536135[/url]) In Quran, it says that the nearest heaven is adorned with stars.. Therefore, It is clear that when it talks about the creation of heaven, it's about the universe. (with that idea, someone might say that the whole universe known to science is within the nearest (first) heaven. But that is not very explicit). Sometimes, it is used figuratively. That is to say something is out of this "world". But in case of this topic, it is a clear reference to universe. Now, you have to note the human definition of universe, which says something like everything that exists (including the earth). But heaven is that of the universe except the earth, because we are "seeing" the heaven while staying on earth. The concept "universe" is not known to those people 1400 years ago. As a reference, it's clear that heaven means the rest of the universe. [U] "Where" is the abode of Allah?[/U] I gave an idea about this in the original post. Did you miss it? {{Expanding universe යනු fact එකක්. එම expanding universe එක reverse කලොත් (ගණිතමය ලෙස) එය singularity එකක් දක්වා යනවා. අයින්ස්ටයින්ගේ සාපේක්ෂතාවාදය අනුව time සහ space සම්බන්ධයි. ඒ අනුව මේ singularity එකට කලින් time එකක් නෑ. එතැනදී භෞතික විද්යාවෙ නීති සියල්ල බිඳ වැටෙනවා. මේ singularity එක ඇතිවෙන්න භෞතික විද්යාවේ නීති අනුව වැඩ කරන කිසිම ක්රියාවලියක් එතැනදී වැඩ කරන්නේ නෑ. එනිසා,[COLOR="Purple"] එම singularity එක ඇතිවිය හැක්කේ time සහ space වලට යටත් නොවන, එයට ඔබ්බෙන් ඇති ක්රියාවලියකටය.[/COLOR] එවැනි දෙයක් ගැන මිනිසාට ලැබී ඇති එකම තොරතුර දෙවියන් ගැන පමණි. Expanding universe ගැන පැහැදිලිව කුරානයේ ඇත. Big bang වලට සමරුපී විස්තරයක් ඇත. මෙවැනි දෙයක් අවුරුදු 1400කට කලින් සිටි මිනිසෙකුට හීනෙන් පවා සිතීම පුදුමයි. විද්යාව පවා මෑතක් වෙනකන් විශ්වාස කලේ static universe බොරුවයි. එය බිඳ වැටී ඇත. එහෙත් කුරානයේ කී දේ එසේම පවතී. මෙය අපට දෙවියන්ව විශ්වාස කරන්නට රුකුල් දෙන එක් සාධකයක් පමණි.}} Here I gave the idea that Allah is beyond the limits of time and space. Beacuse Allah is the creator of everything including time and space. Allah is not dependent on anything including time and space. He doesn't "need" a "space" to "stay". It is clearly said in Quran that "there is nothing like unto him". So, He is not similar to any creation. He's not in any need of anything, unlike the creation. These are tought in our religion. The questions we ask regarding the creation are not valid with Allah. Therefore, your question is invalid. I'm not sure how much you will grasp from this... We have a belief that there is a life in the "grave". Even that person was burnt to ashes, that life is there for him. We can say something like, it is in a different dimension. According to the persons actions in this world, that life would be either peaceful or painful. Some basic questions are asked in there also, at the beginning. There are many details. I don't think it's useful for you. [/COLOR][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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