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<blockquote data-quote="huakbar" data-source="post: 14682659" data-attributes="member: 465708"><p><span style="font-size: 18px">කියපු බොරු අතේ මාට්ටු වෙනකොට දැන් ඉතින් ගලේ රීපු බලල වගේ උඩ බලාගෙන හිටපන්..<img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/rofl.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/rofl.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/rofl.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">කුරණේ කොස්මොලොජි කියල මුන් කියන පට්ට පල් කෙබර වල සැබෑ තත්වය මෙන්න හැමෝම බලාගන්න. විශ්වය ප්රසාරණය වෙනවා කියපු එකටත් උත්තර මෙතන තියනවා. උඹලගේ ඔය කවි පොත පෙන්නපල්ලා කොන්ඩේ බැඳපු චීන්නුන්ට. හම්බයෝ කියන්නේ මීහරක් පිරිසක් බව අමුතුවෙන් මම පැහැදිලි කරන්න ඕනේ නැහැනේ. වචනයක් දෙකක් අල්ලන් ඒවාට විද්යාත්මක අර්ථ නිරුපනය කරන්න ගිහාම මේ වගේ රෙද්දේ ගූ නාගන්න තමයි වෙන්නේ..<img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/rofl.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/rofl.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span><span style="color: Red"><strong><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Qur'an foretells about Expanding Universe.</span></span></strong></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-size: 18px"><strong><span style="color: purple">[ADH-DHARIYAT 51:48] </span></strong> <span style="color: purple">And the earth, We have made it a wide extent; how well have We then spread (it) out.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> Islamic scholars try to relate the above mentioned <em>ayat</em> with expanding univer</span></span><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">se. But there is no mention of "universe" at all in this verse. This verse here is only talking about earth. "Spreading the earth o</span></span><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">ut "does not correlate with any expansion of universe by any means, rather it establishes century old incorrect Qur’anic flat earth theory </span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">[<a href="http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/avijit/Quran_miracle.htm#6" target="_blank">6</a>].</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Some Islamic scholars also use to quote the previous verse (51:47) of the same Soorat az-Zaariyaat to justify the identical claim. For example, one of these popular claims put forth by Harun Yaha, a renowned Islamic scholar of Muslim community wrote in his article “</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><a href="http://www.creationofuniverse.com/html/bigbang_04.html" target="_blank">THE SIGNS OF THE QUR'AN</a></span><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">”: </span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 18px"><em> <span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> Another truth revealed in the Qur'an is the expansion of the universe that was discovered in the late 1920s. Hubble's discovery of the red shift in the spectrum of starlight is revealed in the Qur'an as: </span></span></em></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">It is We Who have built the universe with (Our creative) power, and, verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it. (Surat adh-Dhariyat: 47) </span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The first important point to ponder whether is the actual statements of the Qur’an have been honestly presented here. Mr. Yaha quotes the Qur’an as saying in 51:47 “It is We Who have built the universe with (Our creative) power, and, verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it”</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The purpose of the above translation could have served well for Mr. Yaha and his gullible followers, but not the sceptics for obvious reasons. Let me quote the three most highly regarded English translations that generally available in the Net [</span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><a href="http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/avijit/Quran_miracle.htm#18" target="_blank">18</a></span></span><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">]. Their versions are:</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 18px"><a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/051.qmt.html#051.047" target="_blank"> <em>051.047</em></a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>YUSUFALI:</strong></span> <span style="font-size: 18px"> With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who create the vastness of pace. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>PICKTHAL:</strong></span> <span style="font-size: 18px"> We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof). </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>SHAKIR:</strong></span> <span style="font-size: 18px"> And the heaven, We raised it high with power, and most surely We are the makers of things ample. </span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">None among the above mentioned translators gives the slightest idea of an ongoing expansion of the universe. In fact, none of them refers to the “universe” at all, but to the heavens or firmament, in contrast to the Yaha immediately following which discusses the earth in the following verse <em>(</em></span></span><em><a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/051.qmt.html#051.048" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">051.048</span></a></em><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><em>)</em> that I explained previously. Denish Giron also explained in one of his wonderfully written pieces that the verb from which the Arabic word (<em>moosi'oon</em>) is derived cannot mean ‘expand’ [</span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><a href="http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/avijit/Quran_miracle.htm#19" target="_blank">19</a></span></span><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">]. </span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 18px">Also, according to Dr. Ali Sina the word used here is <em>moosiAAoona</em> which drives from word <em>vaseun</em>. [<a href="http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/avijit/Quran_miracle.htm#24" target="_blank">24</a>] It means vast. It has nothing to do with expanding. When one says <em>al rezwano vaseun</em> it refers, 'the garden is vast'. It does not mean that the garden is expanding. Any Arab standing in the clear nights of the desert could lookup at the sky and see that it was vast. Muhammad is stating the obvious. There is no scientific miracle or prophecy in this.</span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The cause of the expansion of the universe is scientifically known from Modern High Energy Astrophysics, known as the theory of inflation. The theory is guided by Einstein's mathematical theory of general relativity about the physical universe. These are all characterized, at any instant in cosmological history, by mathematically- infinite space-like surfaces (3-d space in other words). In this (open) model of the universe, everything is expanding in the same sense that the points on a balloon's surface move away from all other points as the balloon is inflated. General Relativity says that for infinite universes, the same kind of expansion occurs. Inflationary cosmology adds to this by saying that we live in a small pocket of some vaster space-time. This pocked emerged from a tiny patch in the primordial space-time and inflated to a vast size (I have <a href="http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/alo_hate/jatree.pdf" target="_blank"> written a series of articles in Bengali</a> mentioning the facts of origin and expanding nature of Universe which is under publication in a book format).</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">From the above analysis it should be clear that nothing in those Qur'anic verses come any close to what an expansion of universe really means. Those who want to relate the verse with expansion of universe, do this just by their wishful interpretation or favourable twist.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="huakbar, post: 14682659, member: 465708"] [SIZE=5]කියපු බොරු අතේ මාට්ටු වෙනකොට දැන් ඉතින් ගලේ රීපු බලල වගේ උඩ බලාගෙන හිටපන්..:rofl::rofl::rofl: කුරණේ කොස්මොලොජි කියල මුන් කියන පට්ට පල් කෙබර වල සැබෑ තත්වය මෙන්න හැමෝම බලාගන්න. විශ්වය ප්රසාරණය වෙනවා කියපු එකටත් උත්තර මෙතන තියනවා. උඹලගේ ඔය කවි පොත පෙන්නපල්ලා කොන්ඩේ බැඳපු චීන්නුන්ට. හම්බයෝ කියන්නේ මීහරක් පිරිසක් බව අමුතුවෙන් මම පැහැදිලි කරන්න ඕනේ නැහැනේ. වචනයක් දෙකක් අල්ලන් ඒවාට විද්යාත්මක අර්ථ නිරුපනය කරන්න ගිහාම මේ වගේ රෙද්දේ ගූ නාගන්න තමයි වෙන්නේ..:rofl::rofl: [/SIZE][COLOR=Red][B][SIZE=5][FONT=Times New Roman]Qur'an foretells about Expanding Universe.[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [SIZE=5][B][COLOR=purple][ADH-DHARIYAT 51:48] [/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=purple]And the earth, We have made it a wide extent; how well have We then spread (it) out.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#003300][FONT=Times New Roman] Islamic scholars try to relate the above mentioned [I]ayat[/I] with expanding univer[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#003300][FONT=Times New Roman]se. But there is no mention of "universe" at all in this verse. This verse here is only talking about earth. "Spreading the earth o[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#003300][FONT=Times New Roman]ut "does not correlate with any expansion of universe by any means, rather it establishes century old incorrect Qur’anic flat earth theory [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][[URL="http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/avijit/Quran_miracle.htm#6"]6[/URL]].[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#003300][FONT=Times New Roman]Some Islamic scholars also use to quote the previous verse (51:47) of the same Soorat az-Zaariyaat to justify the identical claim. For example, one of these popular claims put forth by Harun Yaha, a renowned Islamic scholar of Muslim community wrote in his article “[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Times New Roman][URL="http://www.creationofuniverse.com/html/bigbang_04.html"]THE SIGNS OF THE QUR'AN[/URL][/FONT][COLOR=#003300][FONT=Times New Roman]”: [/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][I] [COLOR=#003300][FONT=Times New Roman] Another truth revealed in the Qur'an is the expansion of the universe that was discovered in the late 1920s. Hubble's discovery of the red shift in the spectrum of starlight is revealed in the Qur'an as: [/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][FONT=Times New Roman]It is We Who have built the universe with (Our creative) power, and, verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it. (Surat adh-Dhariyat: 47) [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#003300][FONT=Times New Roman]The first important point to ponder whether is the actual statements of the Qur’an have been honestly presented here. Mr. Yaha quotes the Qur’an as saying in 51:47 “It is We Who have built the universe with (Our creative) power, and, verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it”[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#003300][FONT=Times New Roman]The purpose of the above translation could have served well for Mr. Yaha and his gullible followers, but not the sceptics for obvious reasons. Let me quote the three most highly regarded English translations that generally available in the Net [[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Times New Roman][URL="http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/avijit/Quran_miracle.htm#18"]18[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#003300][FONT=Times New Roman]]. Their versions are:[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][URL="http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/051.qmt.html#051.047"] [I]051.047[/I][/URL] [B]YUSUFALI:[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=5] With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who create the vastness of pace. [B]PICKTHAL:[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=5] We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof). [B]SHAKIR:[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=5] And the heaven, We raised it high with power, and most surely We are the makers of things ample. [/SIZE] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#003300][FONT=Times New Roman]None among the above mentioned translators gives the slightest idea of an ongoing expansion of the universe. In fact, none of them refers to the “universe” at all, but to the heavens or firmament, in contrast to the Yaha immediately following which discusses the earth in the following verse [I]([/I][/FONT][/COLOR][I][URL="http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/051.qmt.html#051.048"][FONT=Times New Roman]051.048[/FONT][/URL][/I][COLOR=#003300][FONT=Times New Roman][I])[/I] that I explained previously. Denish Giron also explained in one of his wonderfully written pieces that the verb from which the Arabic word ([I]moosi'oon[/I]) is derived cannot mean ‘expand’ [[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Times New Roman][URL="http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/avijit/Quran_miracle.htm#19"]19[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#003300][FONT=Times New Roman]]. [/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]Also, according to Dr. Ali Sina the word used here is [I]moosiAAoona[/I] which drives from word [I]vaseun[/I]. [[URL="http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/avijit/Quran_miracle.htm#24"]24[/URL]] It means vast. It has nothing to do with expanding. When one says [I]al rezwano vaseun[/I] it refers, 'the garden is vast'. It does not mean that the garden is expanding. Any Arab standing in the clear nights of the desert could lookup at the sky and see that it was vast. Muhammad is stating the obvious. There is no scientific miracle or prophecy in this.[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#003300][FONT=Times New Roman]The cause of the expansion of the universe is scientifically known from Modern High Energy Astrophysics, known as the theory of inflation. The theory is guided by Einstein's mathematical theory of general relativity about the physical universe. These are all characterized, at any instant in cosmological history, by mathematically- infinite space-like surfaces (3-d space in other words). In this (open) model of the universe, everything is expanding in the same sense that the points on a balloon's surface move away from all other points as the balloon is inflated. General Relativity says that for infinite universes, the same kind of expansion occurs. Inflationary cosmology adds to this by saying that we live in a small pocket of some vaster space-time. This pocked emerged from a tiny patch in the primordial space-time and inflated to a vast size (I have [URL="http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/alo_hate/jatree.pdf"] written a series of articles in Bengali[/URL] mentioning the facts of origin and expanding nature of Universe which is under publication in a book format).[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#003300][FONT=Times New Roman]From the above analysis it should be clear that nothing in those Qur'anic verses come any close to what an expansion of universe really means. Those who want to relate the verse with expansion of universe, do this just by their wishful interpretation or favourable twist.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=5] [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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