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Message: <blockquote data-quote="huakbar" data-source="post: 14682673" data-attributes="member: 465708">Qur'an reveals Earth is round !      This    is far from truth. There is no sura in Qur’an that can claim for accuracy    to reveal that earth is round. Let's find some of those wonderful    cosmological facts from Qur’an. In many places of "miaculous" Qur’an it    alludes to the fact that earth is flat and mountains are like poles, which    create a balance so that earth does not tilt. In chapter 88:17,20 it is    recorded....       "Will    they not regard the camels how they are created...... and earth how it    spread?"      Even    many Muslim scholars confess that In this phrase 'how it spread', he denotes    that earth is flat. All the scholars of Islam agree upon this. It is not    round as the physicists claim.       There    are some other suras excerpted from Qur’an for the discerning readers to prove    that Qur’an clearly supports the erroneous "flat earth" theory [<a href="http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/avijit/Quran_miracle.htm#5" target="_blank">5</a>,   <a href="http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/avijit/Quran_miracle.htm#9" target="_blank">9</a>]:   And the    earth have We spread out, and placed therein firm hills, and caused    each seemly thing to grow therein…(Sura Al-Hijr    <a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/015.qmt.html#015.019" target="_blank">   15:19</a>)     Who hath    appointed the earth as a bed and hath threaded roads for you therein    and hath sent down water from the sky and thereby We have brought forth divers    kinds of vegetation,…(Sura Ta Ha    <a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/020.qmt.html#020.053" target="_blank">   20:53</a>)      Who made the   earth a resting-place for you, and placed roads for you therein, that    haply ye may find your way;…(Sura Az-Zukhruf    <a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/043.qmt.html#043.010" target="_blank">   43:10</a>)     And the    earth have We spread out, and have flung firm hills therein, and have    caused of every lovely kind to grow thereon, …(Sura Qaf    <a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/050.qmt.html#050.007" target="_blank">   50:7</a>)     And Allah    hath made the earth a wide expanse for you…(Sura Nooh    <a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/071.qmt.html#071.019" target="_blank">   71:19</a>)      Now    let's check two prominent suras from Qur’an. In one sura Qur'an says that one    of the righteous men of God's servants saw the Sun setting in a certain place    of the Earth-in particular a well full of water and mud. There, this man found    some people. Let us read what is recorded in the Qur'an (chapter "the Cave",    verse 86):          Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in    a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn!    Either punish or show them kindness (Sura Al-Kahf   <a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/018.qmt.html#018.086" target="_blank">   018.086</a>).      Again    in another verse of the same sura it is said -          Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun, he found it rising on a    people for whom We had appointed no shelter therefrom (Sura Al-Kahf    <a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/018.qmt.html#018.090" target="_blank">   018.090</a>).      Any    reader, who has some common sense and preliminary knowledge of science, knows    that sun does not need to have any "rising" or "setting" place, because, sun    neither rise, nor does it set.  It is the diurnal motion of the earth which    makes appear in every place of earth for sun's rising and setting. But it    seems that omniscient Allah does not know the simple scientific truth. Allah    thought that sun needs a definite rising and setting place and one does need    to go to the end of the world to find it rising/setting. This gives an idea    the people of Muhammad’s time believed that the Earth is flat and the sun    moves in the sky rising from one place and setting in another.       The proof of flat    earth is implicit in the instruction for Muslim prayer times.       <a href="http://www.humanists.net/avijit/aroj_ali/profile.htm" target="_blank">   Aroj Ali Matubbar</a>, the peasant-philosopher of Bengal has further    elaborated on this idea of flat earth in his book ‘<a href="http://www.humanists.net/avijit/aroj_ali/" target="_blank">The    Quest for Truth</a>’ [<a href="http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/avijit/Quran_miracle.htm#22" target="_blank">22</a>].    Let us take this opportunity to examine his elaboration.     Allah clearly assumes    that universality of time and has no concept of "Local Time". It is found that    in almost all religions there are certain fixed hours for certain prayers. But    it is not understood why the Lord of the universe should withhold His    acceptance if a person says his/her prayers before or after the fixed hours?    Islam enjoins saying one’s prayers five times a day at particular hours and    there are certain hours when prayers are forbidden.       The diurnal motion of    the earth causes difference in the local time of the countries situated in    different longitudes as a result of which there is a prayer time at every    moment of the day and night in some places or other. Yet it is forbidden to    say one’s prayers at sunrise, at 12 noon and at sunset. What is its    significance? The sun rises at different hours at different places – earlier    in eastern countries and later in the western countries. So when prayers are    forbidden here it is not forbidden elsewhere at that particular moment. For    instance, when the sun rises in New York, it is yet to rise in Los Angels and    it had already risen in London a few hours ago. Thus, when prayers are    forbidden at New York, it is not forbidden in L.A. or London. In that case, is    there any sense in forbidding prayers at particular hours?       The same question    applies to prescribed hours for prayers. Since every moment is a prayer time    in some place or other what is the point in fixing certain hours for certain    prayers?       There was a time when    the Earth was supposed to be flat and stationary which would make the hour of    clock at any given moment identical in all the countries or places of the    world with no variation in local time. Probably this notion led to the    prescribed prayer–schedule. But now it has been proved that the earth is a    moving sphere. Let us now discuss the problems arising out of the erroneous    notion.       Suppose after saying    his afternoon prayer “Zohar” at half past one, a man started for Holly Mecca    in Saudi Arabia by plane from Bangladesh flying at a speed of 3000 miles per    hour. On reaching there he found that it was yet to be noon. Will he have to    say the “Zohar” prayer once again when the appointed time for it comes?          If a plane flies west    at a speed 1041.67 miles per hour, the sun will appear to be at rest as if it    stood motionless at one place and the passengers will have no idea of the time    of day – morning, noon or evening – by looking at the sun. In this    circumstance, how will the passengers take care of their prayers and fasting?         It is only in the    equatorial region of the earth that at certain times of the year the days and    nights are of equal or nearly equal duration. But the further north and south    we travel from this region, the longer are the days or nights depending on the    season of the year. In some countries near the arctic region days become so    long in summer that soon after dusk the sun rises again with no night between    evening and dawn. How will one say one’s Esha prayer there?       In the arctic region    about six months of continuous daytime is followed by a night lasting for six    months. Since we get only one day and one night there it may be possible to    say one’s prayers five times a year but how can one fast there for thirty days    from dawn to dusk?  This is proof enough that Allah was not knowledgeable    about the reality of the Earth, and probably considered the Earth as flat.         After    Maurice Bucaille's "Bible Qur’an and Science" appeared in the market in 1976,    it had created literally a sensation especially among educated community in    Bangladesh. A new trend has been observed to relate modern science with vague    verses of the holy books. It would however not be irrelevant to point out at    this moment from the news media and rationalist/humanist web-sites how some    western $cientists (yes, some are exposed as $cientists, not scientists) are    bribed, duped into endorsing so called "Qur’anic" Science :   <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">               <a href="http://humanists.net/avijit/article/western_scientists_.htm" target="_blank">     How Western Scientists Discovered $cience in Qur’an!</a> by Abul Kasem     </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">               <a href="http://humanists.net/avijit/article/Western_Scientists_Bribed.htm" target="_blank">     Western Scientists Bribed, Duped into Endorsing "Qur’anic" Science</a> by      James Dorsey</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">               <a href="http://geocities.com/freethoughtmecca/moorebinlauden.html" target="_blank">     Embryonic Terrorist Dawaganda</a> by Sadiqi az-Zindiki </li> </ul>      In    Bangladesh, I have seen exactly similar efforts from some Muslim intellectuals    who have already started writing so called "super scientific" books following    the leading trend showed by Dr. Bucaille and Dr. Moore. The most    prominent fundamentalist organization named Islamic Foundation of Bangladesh    have undertaken some "wonderful" projects and philanthropic tasks of unfolding    the scientific treasures hidden in Qur’an!   <a href="http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/jahed/pseudo_scientist.htm" target="_blank">   Such efforts are warm-heartedly being patronized by Bangladesh government</a>    [<a href="http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/avijit/Quran_miracle.htm#11" target="_blank">11</a>].    Hundreds of popular pseudo-scientific books have already been written to    influence the common people of Bangladesh, even some fundamentalist    organization, inspired by the mission,  are threatening the secular professors    demanding to change the University syllabus to make the education system    compatible with Islamic Science [<a href="http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/avijit/Quran_miracle.htm#23" target="_blank">23</a>]. </blockquote>

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