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<blockquote data-quote="Geriya" data-source="post: 31146516" data-attributes="member: 569674"><p>ක්රිස්තියානි ආගම ගැඹුරින් හදාරන විට එන ගැටළු තමයි මේ මට. </p><p></p><p>chatgpt </p><p></p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="1️⃣" title="Keycap: 1 :one:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/0031-20e3.png" data-shortname=":one:" /> Jesus never said “worship me” — so why do people worship him?</p><p>What Jesus actually said (Bible):</p><p>Jesus prayed to God</p><p>He taught others to pray to God</p><p>He said:</p><p>“Worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only.”</p><p>— Matthew 4:10</p><p>He said:</p><p>“The Father is greater than I.”</p><p>— John 14:28</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👉" title="Backhand index pointing right :point_right:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f449.png" data-shortname=":point_right:" /> Jesus never commanded people to worship him.</p><p>So who started worshipping Jesus?</p><p>After Jesus, some followers interpreted him as divine</p><p>Especially through:</p><p>Paul’s teachings</p><p>Later Gospel writings</p><p>Church theology</p><p>By the 4th century, worship of Jesus became official doctrine through church councils.</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="✅" title="Check mark button :white_check_mark:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/2705.png" data-shortname=":white_check_mark:" /> Conclusion:</p><p>People worship Jesus because of later theological decisions, not because Jesus ordered it.</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="2️⃣" title="Keycap: 2 :two:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/0032-20e3.png" data-shortname=":two:" /> Jesus never allowed idol worship — so who started using idols?</p><p>Jesus’ background:</p><p>Jesus was a Jew</p><p>Judaism strictly forbids idols:</p><p>“You shall not make for yourself a graven image.”</p><p>— Exodus 20:4</p><p>Jesus followed Jewish law and never used images in worship.</p><p>Early Christians:</p><p>The first Christians:</p><p>Had no statues</p><p>No paintings of Jesus</p><p>Worshipped in simple gatherings</p><p>When did idols enter?</p><p>After Christianity spread into the Roman & Greek world</p><p>Pagan converts were used to idols</p><p>To make conversion easier:</p><p>Churches allowed images</p><p>Saints’ statues</p><p>Jesus’ images</p><p>This happened centuries later, not in Jesus’ lifetime.</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="⚠️" title="Warning :warning:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/26a0.png" data-shortname=":warning:" /> Even many Christians opposed this:</p><p>Iconoclast movements (8th–9th century)</p><p>Some churches still reject images today</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="✅" title="Check mark button :white_check_mark:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/2705.png" data-shortname=":white_check_mark:" /> Conclusion:</p><p>Idol use came from pagan cultural influence, not from Jesus.</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="3️⃣" title="Keycap: 3 :three:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/0033-20e3.png" data-shortname=":three:" /> Is the idol of Jesus actually a Greek man, not Jesus?</p><p>Honest historical truth:</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="✔️" title="Check mark :heavy_check_mark:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/2714.png" data-shortname=":heavy_check_mark:" /> Yes.</p><p>The common image/statue of Jesus does not match historical Jesus.</p><p>Why?</p><p>Jesus was:</p><p>Middle Eastern (Palestinian Jew)</p><p>Brown skin</p><p>Semitic features</p><p>No one knows his real face</p><p>The Bible gives no physical description</p><p>Where did the image come from?</p><p>Roman & Greek art styles</p><p>Many Jesus images resemble:</p><p>Greek god Apollo</p><p>Roman noblemen</p><p>Artists painted Jesus to look like their own people</p><p>So: <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👉" title="Backhand index pointing right :point_right:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f449.png" data-shortname=":point_right:" /> The white, long-haired Jesus image is European imagination, not Jesus.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Short answer (very clear)</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👉" title="Backhand index pointing right :point_right:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f449.png" data-shortname=":point_right:" /> Jesus called God “Father” as a metaphor, not because God is his biological father.</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👉" title="Backhand index pointing right :point_right:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f449.png" data-shortname=":point_right:" /> He used the word “Father” to mean Creator, Lord, Protector — exactly the way other prophets did.</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="1️⃣" title="Keycap: 1 :one:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/0031-20e3.png" data-shortname=":one:" /> Did Jesus mean biological father?</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="❌" title="Cross mark :x:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/274c.png" data-shortname=":x:" /> No. Absolutely not.</p><p>Reasons:</p><p>God is not physical</p><p>God does not have a body</p><p>God does not have children biologically</p><p>Even the Bible says:</p><p>“God is not a man.” (Numbers 23:19)</p><p>Jesus himself never explained “Father” as biological.</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="2️⃣" title="Keycap: 2 :two:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/0032-20e3.png" data-shortname=":two:" /> Why did Jesus use the word Father then?</p><p>a) Language & culture</p><p>Jesus spoke Aramaic</p><p>He used the word “Abba”</p><p>Meaning:</p><p>Master</p><p>Caregiver</p><p>Authority</p><p>One who sustains</p><p>It was a relationship word, not a biology word.</p><p>b) Jewish tradition (very important)</p><p>Many prophets before Jesus called God “Father”.</p><p>Examples:</p><p>Isaiah 64:8</p><p>“You, O Lord, are our Father”</p><p>Malachi 2:10</p><p>“Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us?”</p><p>So when Jesus said “Father”: <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👉" title="Backhand index pointing right :point_right:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f449.png" data-shortname=":point_right:" /> He was speaking like earlier prophets, not introducing something new.</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="3️⃣" title="Keycap: 3 :three:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/0033-20e3.png" data-shortname=":three:" /> Did Jesus say only he is God’s son?</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="❌" title="Cross mark :x:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/274c.png" data-shortname=":x:" /> No</p><p>Jesus also said:</p><p>“I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.”</p><p>— John 20:17</p><p>This proves:</p><p>God is Father to Jesus</p><p>God is also Father to others</p><p>Jesus did not claim exclusive biological sonship</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="4️⃣" title="Keycap: 4 :four:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/0034-20e3.png" data-shortname=":four:" /> Why did later Christians misunderstand this?</p><p>Because:</p><p>Metaphorical language was taken literally</p><p>Greek philosophy influenced theology</p><p>Church councils formalized the idea of “Son of God”</p><p>But this meaning did not come from Jesus’ own explanation.</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="5️⃣" title="Keycap: 5 :five:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/0035-20e3.png" data-shortname=":five:" /> Islamic clarification (for completeness)</p><p>Islam is very clear:</p><p>“He neither begets nor is born.” (Qur’an 112:3)</p><p>Islam accepts:</p><p>Jesus called God his Lord</p><p>But rejects any biological or divine sonship</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="✅" title="Check mark button :white_check_mark:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/2705.png" data-shortname=":white_check_mark:" /> Final conclusion (one line)</p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👉" title="Backhand index pointing right :point_right:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f449.png" data-shortname=":point_right:" /> Jesus called God “Father” to express obedience and closeness — not biological relationship.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Geriya, post: 31146516, member: 569674"] ක්රිස්තියානි ආගම ගැඹුරින් හදාරන විට එන ගැටළු තමයි මේ මට. chatgpt 1️⃣ Jesus never said “worship me” — so why do people worship him? What Jesus actually said (Bible): Jesus prayed to God He taught others to pray to God He said: “Worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only.” — Matthew 4:10 He said: “The Father is greater than I.” — John 14:28 👉 Jesus never commanded people to worship him. So who started worshipping Jesus? After Jesus, some followers interpreted him as divine Especially through: Paul’s teachings Later Gospel writings Church theology By the 4th century, worship of Jesus became official doctrine through church councils. ✅ Conclusion: People worship Jesus because of later theological decisions, not because Jesus ordered it. 2️⃣ Jesus never allowed idol worship — so who started using idols? Jesus’ background: Jesus was a Jew Judaism strictly forbids idols: “You shall not make for yourself a graven image.” — Exodus 20:4 Jesus followed Jewish law and never used images in worship. Early Christians: The first Christians: Had no statues No paintings of Jesus Worshipped in simple gatherings When did idols enter? After Christianity spread into the Roman & Greek world Pagan converts were used to idols To make conversion easier: Churches allowed images Saints’ statues Jesus’ images This happened centuries later, not in Jesus’ lifetime. ⚠️ Even many Christians opposed this: Iconoclast movements (8th–9th century) Some churches still reject images today ✅ Conclusion: Idol use came from pagan cultural influence, not from Jesus. 3️⃣ Is the idol of Jesus actually a Greek man, not Jesus? Honest historical truth: ✔️ Yes. The common image/statue of Jesus does not match historical Jesus. Why? Jesus was: Middle Eastern (Palestinian Jew) Brown skin Semitic features No one knows his real face The Bible gives no physical description Where did the image come from? Roman & Greek art styles Many Jesus images resemble: Greek god Apollo Roman noblemen Artists painted Jesus to look like their own people So: 👉 The white, long-haired Jesus image is European imagination, not Jesus. Short answer (very clear) 👉 Jesus called God “Father” as a metaphor, not because God is his biological father. 👉 He used the word “Father” to mean Creator, Lord, Protector — exactly the way other prophets did. 1️⃣ Did Jesus mean biological father? ❌ No. Absolutely not. Reasons: God is not physical God does not have a body God does not have children biologically Even the Bible says: “God is not a man.” (Numbers 23:19) Jesus himself never explained “Father” as biological. 2️⃣ Why did Jesus use the word Father then? a) Language & culture Jesus spoke Aramaic He used the word “Abba” Meaning: Master Caregiver Authority One who sustains It was a relationship word, not a biology word. b) Jewish tradition (very important) Many prophets before Jesus called God “Father”. Examples: Isaiah 64:8 “You, O Lord, are our Father” Malachi 2:10 “Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us?” So when Jesus said “Father”: 👉 He was speaking like earlier prophets, not introducing something new. 3️⃣ Did Jesus say only he is God’s son? ❌ No Jesus also said: “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.” — John 20:17 This proves: God is Father to Jesus God is also Father to others Jesus did not claim exclusive biological sonship 4️⃣ Why did later Christians misunderstand this? Because: Metaphorical language was taken literally Greek philosophy influenced theology Church councils formalized the idea of “Son of God” But this meaning did not come from Jesus’ own explanation. 5️⃣ Islamic clarification (for completeness) Islam is very clear: “He neither begets nor is born.” (Qur’an 112:3) Islam accepts: Jesus called God his Lord But rejects any biological or divine sonship ✅ Final conclusion (one line) 👉 Jesus called God “Father” to express obedience and closeness — not biological relationship. [/QUOTE]
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