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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ek_rosh" data-source="post: 31524675" data-attributes="member: 507164">the thing is that nobody builds their framework of understanding out of nothing. everyone has their own facts and logic and defending that framework is perfectly fine as long as those facts and logic are solid. BUT if someones logic starts shaking in front of another persons questions/challenges and then they try to protect their framework at any cost by dragging in irrelevant nonsense, thats where the real problem is. it is just not only wastes time, it keeps you stuck inside a failed framework you mistakenly believe has a solid foundation..</blockquote>

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