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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ek_rosh" data-source="post: 31543938" data-attributes="member: 507164">if you take anapana satimannana - breath is mine, im meditating, my breath, can there be breath.. - all the imaginationsnana/nuwana - knowing the start of breath, end of breath, etc...visesha nyana/nuwana (prajna) - seeing anicca dukka anattano mannana in anapana sati... whole purpose of anapana sati is stopping the mannana..for yoniso to take over (later)buddha sometimes mix and match nuwana/visheshitha nuwana depending on the context. but most places he separates them clearly..<hr />visehsha nuwana (prajna), not regular nuwana - 3 mark penetrationyou are not asked to see 3 marks with prutakjana perspective. anapana sati (satipattana) sets up conditions to stop mannana and allows yoniso to happen where visesha nuwana takes over.no.visehsa nuwana - samma ditti------ Post added on [DATETIME="UT"]1785945091[/DATETIME]<hr />not sure what you mean..nope, you dont identify the experience of the music through knowledge/sheet music. the sheet doesnt tell you how the music feels.It tells you how the music must be constructed/performed..some performers use five instruments... some may use six. some bring one instrument in early, others bring it in later. across those hundreds of performances every group claims THEIR version is the original.BUT the sheet music tells you exactly, how many instruments should be used, which instruments, and the precise order in which they must enter.that knowledge doesnt create the music experience, BUT it DOES tell you which performance will produce the original sound and which ones wont..so that you wont be suck in a performance that will never create the experience needed... this is the key you are missing.sure, many of these performances can make listeners relaxed, calm, or happy even if they reproduce zero of the original music. if thats the purpose youare looking, for a simple enjoyment over what the composer intended from the original music, sure, the choice is yours. i dont think anybody here has any objection about your choices <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤦‍♂️" title="Man facepalming    :man_facepalming:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f926-2642.png" data-shortname=":man_facepalming:" />------ Post added on [DATETIME="UT"]1785966563[/DATETIME]</blockquote>

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