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<blockquote data-quote="Sri_Sampath" data-source="post: 26074314" data-attributes="member: 264139"><p><h3>'Steroid cream quickly sorted my phimosis'</h3><p><img src="https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/160F4/production/_106765309_gettyimages-876215226.jpg" alt="Boy scared seeing the doctor" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />IMAGE COPYRIGHTGETTY IMAGES</p><p>image captionMarvin thinks boys and men should try using steroid cream if they have phimosis (stock image)</p><p>Marvin was successfully treated for phimosis as a child using steroid cream, and he is concerned some consultants might be advising circumcision unnecessarily.</p><p>This is because his own son was advised to have a circumcision, rather than use steroid cream.</p><p>"I had phimosis as a kid and nearing my teenage years I visited the local doctor, who then prescribed some steroid cream that quickly sorted the problem," said Marvin.</p><p>His son's foreskin did not retract as he got older, so Marvin took him to a doctor when he was 11. He was then referred to a consultant at a children's hospital.</p><p>"At the appointment with the consultant the options were effectively either leave alone to see if it sorts itself or surgery," he said.</p><p>"Two surgery options were given: either circumcision or making a cut in the skin to see if that then heals and provides the necessary stretching."</p><p>Marvin then mentioned his own experience using steroid cream.</p><p>"The consultant said this has almost no chance of working but was prepared to prescribe a steroid and give it a go. About eight weeks later, the problem was resolved.</p><p>"The outcome might have been very different if I had not had the same issue as a kid."</p><h3>'Frenuloplasty cured my phimosis'</h3><p><img src="https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/304E/production/_106766321_gettyimages-1055502216.jpg" alt="Man covering his painful crotch" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />IMAGE COPYRIGHTGETTY IMAGES</p><p>image captionBarry said his foreskin used to be so tight it hurt to retract it during an erection (stock image)</p><p>Barry Betts, 42, had phimosis like Alex but was treated with less invasive surgery, known as frenuloplasty. He said it was "a huge success" for him and wanted to make other men with phimosis aware of it.</p><p>"With me it was essentially a case of sex being painful as my foreskin was so tight that it hurt to retract it during an erection, which is what happens with penetrative sex; as you enter it forces your foreskin to retract," said Barry, who lives on the Wirral.</p><p>He was referred to an NHS urologist who told him the options were "nothing, stretching, circumcision or frenuloplasty".</p><p>"He advised the frenuloplasty due to how tight mine was and I agreed," said Barry, who was in his late 20s at the time.</p><p>The procedure involves surgically lengthening the frenulum, which is the band of tissue where the foreskin attaches to the under surface of the penis.</p><p>Barry dropped a stitch after his operation which led to some "scary bleeding" but this stopped on its own.</p><p>"Once I got past the initial nerves of - how can I put this delicately? - testing out the outcome, I discovered that everything was fine and working better than before, just as the urologist said it would.</p><p>"I haven't had any problems whatsoever in over a decade since it was done."</p><h3>'Sex feels better after circumcision'</h3><p><img src="https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/CC8E/production/_106766325_gettyimages-482913223.jpg" alt="Man in bed looking happy" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />IMAGE COPYRIGHTGETTY IMAGES</p><p>image captionRobert said sex feels better now the head of his penis is exposed (stock image)</p><p>Robert Dawson, 51, from Nottingham, was circumcised as an adult after seeking medical help when his penis bled during sex. He initially regretted it, but says sex is now more enjoyable than before.</p><p>"It was excruciatingly painful," he said of the surgery.</p><p>"It took about 30 minutes. My girlfriend remained outside throughout this but heard my screams."</p><p>When Robert was younger he used to be able to pull his foreskin back, but as he got older it became tighter and he could no longer pull it back.</p><p>It bled during sex in 2017, so he went to see a urologist who advised him to get circumcised.</p><p>The urologist did not suggest any alternative treatments, but Robert did some research online and decided to go ahead with the circumcision.</p><p>He had the operation in Vietnam in June 2018, as that was where he was working at the time. Unlike Alex, his frenulum was left intact.</p><p>"I was so happy with the feeling I had during sex," he said.</p><p>"Now the glans [head of the penis] was exposed it was a beautiful, lovely feeling again that I had experienced in my teens and 20s."</p><p>Some of his skin has fused slightly higher than it should have done, so he is due to have further surgery in Nottingham to fix this.</p><p>"I so wish that I could have talked to the guy in your article before, during and after his procedure," said Robert.</p><p>"He should have come to England to get an opinion from an NHS urologist. They may have been able to fix his problem, but again, like me, he found a world not willing to talk about this."</p><p><img src="https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/640/cpsprodpb/1226D/production/_105894347_grey_line-nc.png" alt="Presentational grey line" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><h3>Getting help</h3><p><img src="https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/FEF8/production/_106827256_gettyimages-1011876986.jpg" alt="Man talking to therapist" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />IMAGE COPYRIGHTGETTY IMAGES</p><p>image captionPeople with psychological problems can seek help from a therapist (stock image)</p><p><em>Psychotherapist Nick Turner, who specialises in relationships and sex therapy, is currently treating two young men who were traumatised by being circumcised as children.</em></p><p><em>"I've come across loads of grownups who've had circumcisions and not had a problem, but it's the fact that these two boys both experienced post-operative discomfort, bleeding, pain and infection," he said.</em></p><p><em>"We are talking about six-year-old boys here. What would a six-year-old boy know about how to deal with a situation where they are in intense pain following a surgery?</em></p><p><em>Claire Allen, a counsellor at sexual violence charity </em><a href="https://www.savana.org.uk/" target="_blank">Savana</a><em>, believes male circumcision is comparable with less severe forms of female genital mutilation.</em></p><p><em>"If we are removing the foreskin of the penis, the equivalent in a woman could be removing the prepuce or the hood that covers the clitoris," said Miss Allen.</em></p><p><em>"My personal opinion is that it doesn't matter how much flesh is removed, you are still going through that process, you are still experiencing the pain. It's hard to know what damage it can have on people's brains but there are lots of things that can come from the effects of trauma."</em></p><p><em>Mr Turner advised going to the </em><a href="https://www.cosrt.org.uk/" target="_blank">College of Sexual and Relationship Therapists</a><em>, or finding a sex therapist through </em><a href="https://www.relate.org.uk/" target="_blank">Relate</a><em>, the </em><a href="https://www.bacp.co.uk/" target="_blank">BACP</a><em> or the </em><a href="https://www.psychotherapy.org.uk/" target="_blank">UKCP</a><em>.</em></p><p><em>The UK charity </em><a href="https://15square.org.uk/contact-us/general-enquiries/" target="_blank">15 Square</a><em>, which tries to help men affected by circumcision, is also hoping to start support meetings.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sri_Sampath, post: 26074314, member: 264139"] [HEADING=2]'Steroid cream quickly sorted my phimosis'[/HEADING] [IMG alt="Boy scared seeing the doctor"]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/160F4/production/_106765309_gettyimages-876215226.jpg[/IMG]IMAGE COPYRIGHTGETTY IMAGES image captionMarvin thinks boys and men should try using steroid cream if they have phimosis (stock image) Marvin was successfully treated for phimosis as a child using steroid cream, and he is concerned some consultants might be advising circumcision unnecessarily. This is because his own son was advised to have a circumcision, rather than use steroid cream. "I had phimosis as a kid and nearing my teenage years I visited the local doctor, who then prescribed some steroid cream that quickly sorted the problem," said Marvin. His son's foreskin did not retract as he got older, so Marvin took him to a doctor when he was 11. He was then referred to a consultant at a children's hospital. "At the appointment with the consultant the options were effectively either leave alone to see if it sorts itself or surgery," he said. "Two surgery options were given: either circumcision or making a cut in the skin to see if that then heals and provides the necessary stretching." Marvin then mentioned his own experience using steroid cream. "The consultant said this has almost no chance of working but was prepared to prescribe a steroid and give it a go. About eight weeks later, the problem was resolved. "The outcome might have been very different if I had not had the same issue as a kid." [HEADING=2]'Frenuloplasty cured my phimosis'[/HEADING] [IMG alt="Man covering his painful crotch"]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/304E/production/_106766321_gettyimages-1055502216.jpg[/IMG]IMAGE COPYRIGHTGETTY IMAGES image captionBarry said his foreskin used to be so tight it hurt to retract it during an erection (stock image) Barry Betts, 42, had phimosis like Alex but was treated with less invasive surgery, known as frenuloplasty. He said it was "a huge success" for him and wanted to make other men with phimosis aware of it. "With me it was essentially a case of sex being painful as my foreskin was so tight that it hurt to retract it during an erection, which is what happens with penetrative sex; as you enter it forces your foreskin to retract," said Barry, who lives on the Wirral. He was referred to an NHS urologist who told him the options were "nothing, stretching, circumcision or frenuloplasty". "He advised the frenuloplasty due to how tight mine was and I agreed," said Barry, who was in his late 20s at the time. The procedure involves surgically lengthening the frenulum, which is the band of tissue where the foreskin attaches to the under surface of the penis. Barry dropped a stitch after his operation which led to some "scary bleeding" but this stopped on its own. "Once I got past the initial nerves of - how can I put this delicately? - testing out the outcome, I discovered that everything was fine and working better than before, just as the urologist said it would. "I haven't had any problems whatsoever in over a decade since it was done." [HEADING=2]'Sex feels better after circumcision'[/HEADING] [IMG alt="Man in bed looking happy"]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/CC8E/production/_106766325_gettyimages-482913223.jpg[/IMG]IMAGE COPYRIGHTGETTY IMAGES image captionRobert said sex feels better now the head of his penis is exposed (stock image) Robert Dawson, 51, from Nottingham, was circumcised as an adult after seeking medical help when his penis bled during sex. He initially regretted it, but says sex is now more enjoyable than before. "It was excruciatingly painful," he said of the surgery. "It took about 30 minutes. My girlfriend remained outside throughout this but heard my screams." When Robert was younger he used to be able to pull his foreskin back, but as he got older it became tighter and he could no longer pull it back. It bled during sex in 2017, so he went to see a urologist who advised him to get circumcised. The urologist did not suggest any alternative treatments, but Robert did some research online and decided to go ahead with the circumcision. He had the operation in Vietnam in June 2018, as that was where he was working at the time. Unlike Alex, his frenulum was left intact. "I was so happy with the feeling I had during sex," he said. "Now the glans [head of the penis] was exposed it was a beautiful, lovely feeling again that I had experienced in my teens and 20s." Some of his skin has fused slightly higher than it should have done, so he is due to have further surgery in Nottingham to fix this. "I so wish that I could have talked to the guy in your article before, during and after his procedure," said Robert. "He should have come to England to get an opinion from an NHS urologist. They may have been able to fix his problem, but again, like me, he found a world not willing to talk about this." [IMG alt="Presentational grey line"]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/640/cpsprodpb/1226D/production/_105894347_grey_line-nc.png[/IMG] [HEADING=2]Getting help[/HEADING] [IMG alt="Man talking to therapist"]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/FEF8/production/_106827256_gettyimages-1011876986.jpg[/IMG]IMAGE COPYRIGHTGETTY IMAGES image captionPeople with psychological problems can seek help from a therapist (stock image) [I]Psychotherapist Nick Turner, who specialises in relationships and sex therapy, is currently treating two young men who were traumatised by being circumcised as children. "I've come across loads of grownups who've had circumcisions and not had a problem, but it's the fact that these two boys both experienced post-operative discomfort, bleeding, pain and infection," he said. "We are talking about six-year-old boys here. What would a six-year-old boy know about how to deal with a situation where they are in intense pain following a surgery? Claire Allen, a counsellor at sexual violence charity [/I][URL='https://www.savana.org.uk/']Savana[/URL][I], believes male circumcision is comparable with less severe forms of female genital mutilation. "If we are removing the foreskin of the penis, the equivalent in a woman could be removing the prepuce or the hood that covers the clitoris," said Miss Allen. "My personal opinion is that it doesn't matter how much flesh is removed, you are still going through that process, you are still experiencing the pain. It's hard to know what damage it can have on people's brains but there are lots of things that can come from the effects of trauma." Mr Turner advised going to the [/I][URL='https://www.cosrt.org.uk/']College of Sexual and Relationship Therapists[/URL][I], or finding a sex therapist through [/I][URL='https://www.relate.org.uk/']Relate[/URL][I], the [/I][URL='https://www.bacp.co.uk/']BACP[/URL][I] or the [/I][URL='https://www.psychotherapy.org.uk/']UKCP[/URL][I]. The UK charity [/I][URL='https://15square.org.uk/contact-us/general-enquiries/']15 Square[/URL][I], which tries to help men affected by circumcision, is also hoping to start support meetings.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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