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<blockquote data-quote="Mutakallim" data-source="post: 14638178" data-attributes="member: 463877"><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I can tell you that there is no statement in the Qur’an that says Jews are “monkeys and pigs.” None. I can tell you that there is also no passage in the Qur’an that says those that earn the wrath of God are “pigs and monkeys.” None</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Sure, there are verses in the Qur’an that speak about pigs:</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">“He has forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine…” (2:173)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">“Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, and the flesh of swine…” (5:3)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">“He has only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine…” (16:115)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Not one of them, however, has anything to do with Jews. They are no where to be found in these verses</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Now, I must admit, there are two verses that speak of Jews and monkeys in the same sentence. But, before you yell “Gotcha!” at the computer screen, read the verses:</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">“And well you knew those among you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath. We said to them ‘Be ye apes, despised and rejected.’” (2:65)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">“And ask them about that town which stood by the sea: how its people would profane the Sabbath whenever their fish came to them, breaking the water’s surface, on a day on which they ought to have kept Sabbath - because they would not come to them on other than Sabbath-days!...And then, when they disdainfully persisted in doing what they had been forbidden to do, We said unto them: ‘Be as apes despicable!’‘’ (7:163-166)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">What was the story of the Sabbath-breakers?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">“Under Mosaic Law, they were obliged to refrain from all work - and, therefore, also from fishing - on Sabbath-days, with the result that the fish were more plentiful and would come closer to the shore on those days: and the inhabitants of the town took this as an excuse to break the Sabbath-law.”</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Despite being warned against transgressing against the Sabbath law, they fished on the Sabbath anyway, and thus God decreed that they become “apes despicable.” Now, many Muslims understand this in a literal sense, that God literally changed them into apes. That’s possible. There are other commentators, however, that have a different explanation</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">“As for the substance of God’s decree, “Be as apes despicable”, the famous tabii [student of the Prophet’s (pbuh) Companions] Mujahid explains it thus: ‘(Only) their hearts were transformed, that is, they were not (really) transformed into apes: this is but a metaphor (mathal) coined by God with regard to them, similar to the metaphor of ‘the ass carrying books’ (62:5)”...A similar explanation is given by Raghib. It should be borne in mind that the expression “like an ape” is often used in classical Arabic to describe a person who is unable to restrain his gross appetites or passions.”</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">So, it is possible that these Sabbath-breakers were not even turned into apes, and it was just an expression by God. Whatever the case may be, the point remains:<span style="color: Red"> the Qur’an does not call Jews “pigs and monkeys.” It was talking about a specific ancient town in which Jews lived, and among them were people who broke the Sabbath law. And it was these specific people, after being repeatedly warned by God, who “became as apes despised.” Let me say it again: there is no verse in the Qur’an that says Jews are “pigs and monkeys.” Period.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mutakallim, post: 14638178, member: 463877"] [SIZE="4"] I can tell you that there is no statement in the Qur’an that says Jews are “monkeys and pigs.” None. I can tell you that there is also no passage in the Qur’an that says those that earn the wrath of God are “pigs and monkeys.” None Sure, there are verses in the Qur’an that speak about pigs: “He has forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine…” (2:173) “Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, and the flesh of swine…” (5:3) “He has only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine…” (16:115) Not one of them, however, has anything to do with Jews. They are no where to be found in these verses Now, I must admit, there are two verses that speak of Jews and monkeys in the same sentence. But, before you yell “Gotcha!” at the computer screen, read the verses: “And well you knew those among you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath. We said to them ‘Be ye apes, despised and rejected.’” (2:65) “And ask them about that town which stood by the sea: how its people would profane the Sabbath whenever their fish came to them, breaking the water’s surface, on a day on which they ought to have kept Sabbath - because they would not come to them on other than Sabbath-days!...And then, when they disdainfully persisted in doing what they had been forbidden to do, We said unto them: ‘Be as apes despicable!’‘’ (7:163-166) What was the story of the Sabbath-breakers? “Under Mosaic Law, they were obliged to refrain from all work - and, therefore, also from fishing - on Sabbath-days, with the result that the fish were more plentiful and would come closer to the shore on those days: and the inhabitants of the town took this as an excuse to break the Sabbath-law.” Despite being warned against transgressing against the Sabbath law, they fished on the Sabbath anyway, and thus God decreed that they become “apes despicable.” Now, many Muslims understand this in a literal sense, that God literally changed them into apes. That’s possible. There are other commentators, however, that have a different explanation “As for the substance of God’s decree, “Be as apes despicable”, the famous tabii [student of the Prophet’s (pbuh) Companions] Mujahid explains it thus: ‘(Only) their hearts were transformed, that is, they were not (really) transformed into apes: this is but a metaphor (mathal) coined by God with regard to them, similar to the metaphor of ‘the ass carrying books’ (62:5)”...A similar explanation is given by Raghib. It should be borne in mind that the expression “like an ape” is often used in classical Arabic to describe a person who is unable to restrain his gross appetites or passions.” So, it is possible that these Sabbath-breakers were not even turned into apes, and it was just an expression by God. Whatever the case may be, the point remains:[COLOR="Red"] the Qur’an does not call Jews “pigs and monkeys.” It was talking about a specific ancient town in which Jews lived, and among them were people who broke the Sabbath law. And it was these specific people, after being repeatedly warned by God, who “became as apes despised.” Let me say it again: there is no verse in the Qur’an that says Jews are “pigs and monkeys.” Period.[/COLOR] [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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