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<blockquote data-quote="salitha22" data-source="post: 22143434" data-attributes="member: 525534"><p>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p><strong>Extreme Modification </strong></p><p></p><p>Now we are down to the serious modifiers. Comfort and driveability is usually second to engine performance and speed is your goal. These next levels are not only expensive and it require an experience mechanic to perform the modification. If anything goes wrong, you are not only wasting your money but also your time. Besides that, do think of whether after this final stage upgrade will the performance satisfy you? If not it is better to save up the money and go for engine transplant.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The following mods require you to decide, which of the following ways you are going which will be</p><p></p><p><strong>1. Suspension Modifications - Level 3</strong></p><p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxT41yWERI/AAAAAAAAAoo/4ZfdiAlxn_g/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+012.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxT41yWERI/AAAAAAAAAoo/4ZfdiAlxn_g/s640/4G13+and+4G15+modification+012.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p>The last stage of suspension modification is changing to either coil over adjustable suspension or just adjustable suspension. There are few guidelines as below:</p><p></p><p></p><p>1. I recommend the Tien units. To put it quite simply, many Japanese units are set very very hard, so even on there softest unit the car is very harsh, hurts kidney's and actually has worse handling as it skips all over the road. The hardest setting on the Tien units, are equal to the softest setting on the Japanese normal imported units. I cannot recommend these enough - they are simply fantastic with the ability to set your road height, rebound levels etc.</p><p>2. These Tien Units are also available to be electronically adjusted on there rebound rates via up to one independent controller per corner, or one controller on all four units as an example. Mostly for extreme racing only.</p><p></p><p><strong>2. Performance Camshaft 4G13 and 4G15</strong></p><p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxmnN5x1JI/AAAAAAAAApg/Aap_j3gQ3KI/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+019.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxmnN5x1JI/AAAAAAAAApg/Aap_j3gQ3KI/s640/4G13+and+4G15+modification+019.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p>When selecting a performance camshaft, consider the use for which the vehicle will be required. We all know the claims: 20 BHP extra. Be conservative! Don’t over-cam your engine. Choose your cam for the correct application. Consider! Fit a milder cam and increase your power by 10 BHP at 3500 rpm. Remember! You get this 10 HP every time you accelerate through 3500 rpm. Multiply this by 10 HP each time you drive through 3500 rpm then deduct the times you reach 7500 rpm. I’m sure you will find more horsepower on the 3500 rpm side than the 7500 rpm calculation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>From what I observed recently, there is a cam produced by a local brand JASMA able to deliver 8hp on wheel for a totally stock 4G13 engine. </p><p></p><p></p><p>The specification is : </p><p><strong>Intake 270deg lift 9.35mm</strong></p><p><strong>Exhaust 275deg lift 9.20mm</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, I am not saying something without any proof. Here is the dyno graph for before and after JASMA high cam installed (from squiparts.com). By in mind that the dyno graph below is a totally stock 4G13 carburetor. Without any modification for the exhaust system and etc. The best part is this cam shaft only cost you about RM400++ which is worth to invest for a good performance. </p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxlX_RNO-I/AAAAAAAAApQ/qswwoGa1eyg/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+017.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxlX_RNO-I/AAAAAAAAApQ/qswwoGa1eyg/s200/4G13+and+4G15+modification+017.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxlYmWqsII/AAAAAAAAApY/nj8z7M0h-mg/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+018.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxlYmWqsII/AAAAAAAAApY/nj8z7M0h-mg/s200/4G13+and+4G15+modification+018.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>3. Computer Modifications</strong></p><p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxZVGIA8aI/AAAAAAAAAow/9UscbPh2siY/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+013.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxZVGIA8aI/AAAAAAAAAow/9UscbPh2siY/s640/4G13+and+4G15+modification+013.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p>Sorry to carburetor owner, this modification is only available for those EFI owner. There are two types of choices, either standalone or piggy back.</p><p></p><p></p><p>1. If you are still budget conscious, then stick with the piggy back. However do remember that EFI piggyback with Siemens VDO ECU is not work because Siemens VDO ECU do have the ability of reset the setting after sometimes.</p><p>2. Since budget is not the concern here then a standalone is what you need. Much more advanced tuning, with options like shift lights, in built boost controllers, many many more mapping points, much finer tuning. Additionally the stock ECU even with a piggy back is unable to cope with any camshaft changes at all. </p><p></p><p></p><p>For piggy back system, I recommend Greddy Emanage. If you have a tight budget, take the Greddy Emanage blue with ignition harness. If you have more budget, you may get the Greddy Emanage Ultimate which provide more tuning capability. I do not really recommend UNICHIP because you need to bring to their authorized dealer to tune your car. This is quite inconvenience for those who stay far apart from those authorized dealers.</p><p></p><p></p><p>For standalone system, I persoanlly recommend Apexi Power FC. This is because it has the commander for you to fine tune your car compare to the rest like Haltech/Microtech which need a special software from the tuner to tune it. However the downside of Apexi Power FC is, it is not universal, which means that it is built for particular car model. You may read my ECU upgrade for my Celica (Apexi Power FC) <a href="http://www.ben9166.com/2010/03/project-celica-standalone-upgrade-for.html" target="_blank">here</a>. Haltech EMS systems - There is the E6X for those wanting something simple, or the Haltech E8 for those wanting the best. With the inbuilt boost controllers, and hosts of other functions, these are way ahead of trying do piece together a piggy back with separate boost controllers, shift lights, gauges etc.</p><p></p><p><strong>4. Intake Manifold Upgrade / Twin Throttle Body / 4 Throttle Body Conversion </strong></p><p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxaIG5LMyI/AAAAAAAAAo4/FJB3L9S8qeA/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+014.JPG" target="_blank"><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxaIG5LMyI/AAAAAAAAAo4/FJB3L9S8qeA/s640/4G13+and+4G15+modification+014.JPG" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p>If you are remaining Naturally Aspirated you have several options.</p><p></p><p></p><p>1. First you can go for a single throttle body with Internal Ram Tubes. Massive throttle response, Haltech piggy back system great looks without extreme levels of tuning required. Significant torque improvements and can be utilized up to a single 60mm throttle body</p><p>2. Upgrade utilizing stock manifold, modified with fitment of a second throttle body - twin throttle body conversion. Either twin 46mm or twin 51mm throttle bodies work very nicely for a progressive throttle response and great top end rush of power. This system is fantastic and highly recommended if insurance premiums are a 3. The third option is a combination of a Performance Intake Manifold and twin throttle body. Massive plenum chamber, improved air flow, progressive throttle response, this is nearly equivalent to a quad throttle body kit without the side effects and all of the benefits. Massive air flow and the ability to tune with a piggy back or EMS system. Not turbo compatible of course.</p><p></p><p><strong>5. 1.6 SOHC Stroker Kit Package</strong></p><p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxcdMZlm3I/AAAAAAAAApA/NrJOtdJDXhI/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+015.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxcdMZlm3I/AAAAAAAAApA/NrJOtdJDXhI/s640/4G13+and+4G15+modification+015.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p>Some people not believe their stock engine can be 1.6 liters. These engine can fit 4G18 Stroker kit which is 1.6 liters in capacity. Stock 1.5 block will be rebore n some modification on the stroker needed. Beside 4G18 from Proton Waja 1.6L, another option is the S4PH from the 1.6 Campro engine. The S4PH is lighter which I believe the engine is easier to rev. Furthermore, SP4H has a longer stroke which capable to bore and stroke it more than 1.6L but the durability and reliable is a doubt here since I personally have not see a 4G15 bore more than 1.6L. Comparing the CC that able to get from 4G15 after the stroker kit are 4G18 -> 1584cc and S4PH -> 1597cc.</p><p></p><p><strong>6. Turbocharger Conversion Package</strong></p><p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxdBDU1xMI/AAAAAAAAApI/Rmf7erisrWU/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+016.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxdBDU1xMI/AAAAAAAAApI/Rmf7erisrWU/s640/4G13+and+4G15+modification+016.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p>What more can I say other than your a horsepower and boost Junkie. Welcome to the rest of the world. This combines extreme levels of torque and power, with neck snapping acceleration. It comes at a cost though, increased fuel economy, higher insurance and lots of money. But lets get something clear first.</p><p></p><p></p><p>1. Anyone believing they can effectivly fit a turbo kit on there car safely, properly and legally.</p><p>2. These engines in stock form will not handle above 1 PSI boost without aftermarket computer management despite what people believe. 25 : 1 rising rate fuel pressure regulators, larger injectors, moving the distributor to retard timing all these tricks - none work. Don't skimp.</p><p>3. 5th Injector systems are something that came and died in the 80's. Quite simply this does not distribute fuel properly to all cylinders, and still does not provide ignition timing adjustment.</p><p>4. For boost levels up to 10 psi can be done safety on the stock head gasket dependent upon tuning and intercooler efficiency.</p><p>5. For boost levels up to 14 psi requires an upgraded decompression head gasket.</p><p>6. Do not boost above 14 psi on the stock piston / conrod setup otherwise you will learn what a banana conrod looks like.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The 4G15 SOHC engine at around 12 psi is good for around 130kw at the flywheel at the extreme.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Finally, it reached the end of this post. My advice for those who still do not satisfy the power gain from all these modifications, you should instead either look for another car or look to do a engine swap to a larger mitsubishi engine. </p><p></p><p></p><p>If you have any other modifications wish to share with me, do email me at <a href="mailto:ben9166@gmail.com">ben9166@gmail.com</a> or drop me a comment. Thanks for the support.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="salitha22, post: 22143434, member: 525534"] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [B]Extreme Modification [/B] Now we are down to the serious modifiers. Comfort and driveability is usually second to engine performance and speed is your goal. These next levels are not only expensive and it require an experience mechanic to perform the modification. If anything goes wrong, you are not only wasting your money but also your time. Besides that, do think of whether after this final stage upgrade will the performance satisfy you? If not it is better to save up the money and go for engine transplant. The following mods require you to decide, which of the following ways you are going which will be [B]1. Suspension Modifications - Level 3[/B] [CENTER][URL="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxT41yWERI/AAAAAAAAAoo/4ZfdiAlxn_g/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+012.jpg"][IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxT41yWERI/AAAAAAAAAoo/4ZfdiAlxn_g/s640/4G13+and+4G15+modification+012.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/CENTER] The last stage of suspension modification is changing to either coil over adjustable suspension or just adjustable suspension. There are few guidelines as below: 1. I recommend the Tien units. To put it quite simply, many Japanese units are set very very hard, so even on there softest unit the car is very harsh, hurts kidney's and actually has worse handling as it skips all over the road. The hardest setting on the Tien units, are equal to the softest setting on the Japanese normal imported units. I cannot recommend these enough - they are simply fantastic with the ability to set your road height, rebound levels etc. 2. These Tien Units are also available to be electronically adjusted on there rebound rates via up to one independent controller per corner, or one controller on all four units as an example. Mostly for extreme racing only. [B]2. Performance Camshaft 4G13 and 4G15[/B] [CENTER][URL="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxmnN5x1JI/AAAAAAAAApg/Aap_j3gQ3KI/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+019.jpg"][IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxmnN5x1JI/AAAAAAAAApg/Aap_j3gQ3KI/s640/4G13+and+4G15+modification+019.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/CENTER] When selecting a performance camshaft, consider the use for which the vehicle will be required. We all know the claims: 20 BHP extra. Be conservative! Don’t over-cam your engine. Choose your cam for the correct application. Consider! Fit a milder cam and increase your power by 10 BHP at 3500 rpm. Remember! You get this 10 HP every time you accelerate through 3500 rpm. Multiply this by 10 HP each time you drive through 3500 rpm then deduct the times you reach 7500 rpm. I’m sure you will find more horsepower on the 3500 rpm side than the 7500 rpm calculation. From what I observed recently, there is a cam produced by a local brand JASMA able to deliver 8hp on wheel for a totally stock 4G13 engine. The specification is : [B]Intake 270deg lift 9.35mm Exhaust 275deg lift 9.20mm[/B] Well, I am not saying something without any proof. Here is the dyno graph for before and after JASMA high cam installed (from squiparts.com). By in mind that the dyno graph below is a totally stock 4G13 carburetor. Without any modification for the exhaust system and etc. The best part is this cam shaft only cost you about RM400++ which is worth to invest for a good performance. [CENTER][URL="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxlX_RNO-I/AAAAAAAAApQ/qswwoGa1eyg/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+017.jpg"][IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxlX_RNO-I/AAAAAAAAApQ/qswwoGa1eyg/s200/4G13+and+4G15+modification+017.jpg[/IMG][/URL][URL="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxlYmWqsII/AAAAAAAAApY/nj8z7M0h-mg/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+018.jpg"][IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxlYmWqsII/AAAAAAAAApY/nj8z7M0h-mg/s200/4G13+and+4G15+modification+018.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/CENTER] [B]3. Computer Modifications[/B] [CENTER][URL="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxZVGIA8aI/AAAAAAAAAow/9UscbPh2siY/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+013.jpg"][IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxZVGIA8aI/AAAAAAAAAow/9UscbPh2siY/s640/4G13+and+4G15+modification+013.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/CENTER] Sorry to carburetor owner, this modification is only available for those EFI owner. There are two types of choices, either standalone or piggy back. 1. If you are still budget conscious, then stick with the piggy back. However do remember that EFI piggyback with Siemens VDO ECU is not work because Siemens VDO ECU do have the ability of reset the setting after sometimes. 2. Since budget is not the concern here then a standalone is what you need. Much more advanced tuning, with options like shift lights, in built boost controllers, many many more mapping points, much finer tuning. Additionally the stock ECU even with a piggy back is unable to cope with any camshaft changes at all. For piggy back system, I recommend Greddy Emanage. If you have a tight budget, take the Greddy Emanage blue with ignition harness. If you have more budget, you may get the Greddy Emanage Ultimate which provide more tuning capability. I do not really recommend UNICHIP because you need to bring to their authorized dealer to tune your car. This is quite inconvenience for those who stay far apart from those authorized dealers. For standalone system, I persoanlly recommend Apexi Power FC. This is because it has the commander for you to fine tune your car compare to the rest like Haltech/Microtech which need a special software from the tuner to tune it. However the downside of Apexi Power FC is, it is not universal, which means that it is built for particular car model. You may read my ECU upgrade for my Celica (Apexi Power FC) [URL="http://www.ben9166.com/2010/03/project-celica-standalone-upgrade-for.html"]here[/URL]. Haltech EMS systems - There is the E6X for those wanting something simple, or the Haltech E8 for those wanting the best. With the inbuilt boost controllers, and hosts of other functions, these are way ahead of trying do piece together a piggy back with separate boost controllers, shift lights, gauges etc. [B]4. Intake Manifold Upgrade / Twin Throttle Body / 4 Throttle Body Conversion [/B] [CENTER][URL="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxaIG5LMyI/AAAAAAAAAo4/FJB3L9S8qeA/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+014.JPG"][IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxaIG5LMyI/AAAAAAAAAo4/FJB3L9S8qeA/s640/4G13+and+4G15+modification+014.JPG[/IMG][/URL][/CENTER] If you are remaining Naturally Aspirated you have several options. 1. First you can go for a single throttle body with Internal Ram Tubes. Massive throttle response, Haltech piggy back system great looks without extreme levels of tuning required. Significant torque improvements and can be utilized up to a single 60mm throttle body 2. Upgrade utilizing stock manifold, modified with fitment of a second throttle body - twin throttle body conversion. Either twin 46mm or twin 51mm throttle bodies work very nicely for a progressive throttle response and great top end rush of power. This system is fantastic and highly recommended if insurance premiums are a 3. The third option is a combination of a Performance Intake Manifold and twin throttle body. Massive plenum chamber, improved air flow, progressive throttle response, this is nearly equivalent to a quad throttle body kit without the side effects and all of the benefits. Massive air flow and the ability to tune with a piggy back or EMS system. Not turbo compatible of course. [B]5. 1.6 SOHC Stroker Kit Package[/B] [CENTER][URL="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxcdMZlm3I/AAAAAAAAApA/NrJOtdJDXhI/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+015.jpg"][IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxcdMZlm3I/AAAAAAAAApA/NrJOtdJDXhI/s640/4G13+and+4G15+modification+015.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/CENTER] Some people not believe their stock engine can be 1.6 liters. These engine can fit 4G18 Stroker kit which is 1.6 liters in capacity. Stock 1.5 block will be rebore n some modification on the stroker needed. Beside 4G18 from Proton Waja 1.6L, another option is the S4PH from the 1.6 Campro engine. The S4PH is lighter which I believe the engine is easier to rev. Furthermore, SP4H has a longer stroke which capable to bore and stroke it more than 1.6L but the durability and reliable is a doubt here since I personally have not see a 4G15 bore more than 1.6L. Comparing the CC that able to get from 4G15 after the stroker kit are 4G18 -> 1584cc and S4PH -> 1597cc. [B]6. Turbocharger Conversion Package[/B] [CENTER][URL="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxdBDU1xMI/AAAAAAAAApI/Rmf7erisrWU/s1600/4G13+and+4G15+modification+016.jpg"][IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WnxU5DbZvnk/TAxdBDU1xMI/AAAAAAAAApI/Rmf7erisrWU/s640/4G13+and+4G15+modification+016.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/CENTER] What more can I say other than your a horsepower and boost Junkie. Welcome to the rest of the world. This combines extreme levels of torque and power, with neck snapping acceleration. It comes at a cost though, increased fuel economy, higher insurance and lots of money. But lets get something clear first. 1. Anyone believing they can effectivly fit a turbo kit on there car safely, properly and legally. 2. These engines in stock form will not handle above 1 PSI boost without aftermarket computer management despite what people believe. 25 : 1 rising rate fuel pressure regulators, larger injectors, moving the distributor to retard timing all these tricks - none work. Don't skimp. 3. 5th Injector systems are something that came and died in the 80's. Quite simply this does not distribute fuel properly to all cylinders, and still does not provide ignition timing adjustment. 4. For boost levels up to 10 psi can be done safety on the stock head gasket dependent upon tuning and intercooler efficiency. 5. For boost levels up to 14 psi requires an upgraded decompression head gasket. 6. Do not boost above 14 psi on the stock piston / conrod setup otherwise you will learn what a banana conrod looks like. The 4G15 SOHC engine at around 12 psi is good for around 130kw at the flywheel at the extreme. Finally, it reached the end of this post. My advice for those who still do not satisfy the power gain from all these modifications, you should instead either look for another car or look to do a engine swap to a larger mitsubishi engine. If you have any other modifications wish to share with me, do email me at [email]ben9166@gmail.com[/email] or drop me a comment. Thanks for the support. [/QUOTE]
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