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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mononoke" data-source="post: 5581708" data-attributes="member: 238323">I'm going to try to be trite. The bit about Darwinian forces not being constructive is firstly wrong and more criminally you have taken Sir D'Arcy Wentworth Thompsons' word out of context. Wentworth was a naturalist and a darwinist through and through. He proposed what is now called structuralism as a complementary force to natural selection. He even won the darwin medal. The reptiles not not evolving into birds argument is false. Because it is unequivocally accepted that bird evolved from raptors, incase you don't know what raptors are they are the things that tried to eat the kid in kitchen scene Jurassic park. They are dinosaurs, hence reptiles. Please don't say evolution doesn't occour at a macrocosmic level, thats an old story we have seen evolution in labs. EDIT: this just came in  <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8273938.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8273938.stm</a>I am not doing to answer your stupid who created the universe argument again. Because i've beaten it to death, and it's lying there next to you in a pool of viscera and blood.As for the latter part of your entry, Islam was not the first piece of religous literature to claim that they successfully professed the big bang theory. Everybody from Plato in Timaeus to the Vedic scriptures have given some vague account of creation of the universe that some misguided people claim to be compatible with the Big Bang. The answer is no. There are alot of things that are out of place and a lot of details left out. It's just viscous bullshit. The Islamic version of the big bang is also a knock off of Plato's version.I think we should drop this discussion here. I don't want to antagonize you and my vacation is over I have to go back to school. So I won't have alot of free time on my hands. I thank you for your participation, it has been interesting. No hard feelings mate, Choa!</blockquote>

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