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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mononoke" data-source="post: 5584841" data-attributes="member: 238323">I am beginning to think you are stupid. None of those people say that god exists. All they are saying that the empirical reality can no longer viewed as objective. This means that matter and everything that goes with it has a subjective existence. If the universe is subjective then there can be no prime mover or a prime reference frame or an independent entity, almighty god according to your religion is independent absolute existence, such things are banned in QM. This is because God, or anything for that matter, cannot exist and act independently in QM, he exists tied within the subjective interconnected reference frame of everything else. There is no space for God in QM. The closest religious philosophy to quantum mechanics is the concept of Sunyata in Buddhism, were they reject the objective existence of reality.Oh the guy who hosts your near and dear website is a crook and a thug.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Oktar#Legal_issues.2C_arrest.2C_trial.2C_and_sentencing" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Oktar#Legal_issues.2C_arrest.2C_trial.2C_and_sentencing</a>No wonder he was spurting utter bullshit. I guess the adage 'look before you leap' applies fully here.Sayonara!<img src="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Oktar#Legal_issues.2C_arrest.2C_trial.2C_and_sentencing" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></blockquote>

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