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<blockquote data-quote="ela_eluwa120" data-source="post: 12326820" data-attributes="member: 193664"><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I see. However, you appear rather hesitated when "Aethist" said "</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px">"Nibbana/ Nirvana" is still not <u><strong>scientifically</strong></u> proven". Didn't you? So, you are adopting Buddhist meditation as a means of comforting yourself, and as a means of improving your concentration. Not only you! But also your Muslim friend too. I am not going to speak against such practice. Nonetheless, the point is, that sort of practice is not imperative for everyone eh. If you are not arguing for nirvana, that is, if you are not trying to prove nirvana, and if you are merely expressing your satisfaction with your meditation practices, then it means you are simply giving your personal autobiography for us. However, your personal autobiography does not make any claims on us. On the other hand, if you are trying to prove nirvana, then you must give reasons. However, you already admitted that you can't do so.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px">By the way, if a devoted Christian ask you to do such and such religious practices to "verify" the union with Jesus, would you actually take his word? You may object and ask him prove that there is actually such thing called </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> "union with Jesus". And what if he replies, </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px">"</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Sienna">If you really want to, you can verify for yourself the existence of union with Jesus with a fairly little effort.</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px">"</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Ergo, I do not think that those "do it and verify" type arguments are sound. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px">We can use the same argument for any religious practice actually. There is no need to <em>specially focus</em> on Buddhist practices while ignoring other religious practices.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ela_eluwa120, post: 12326820, member: 193664"] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3]I see. However, you appear rather hesitated when "Aethist" said "[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3]"Nibbana/ Nirvana" is still not [U][B]scientifically[/B][/U] proven". Didn't you? So, you are adopting Buddhist meditation as a means of comforting yourself, and as a means of improving your concentration. Not only you! But also your Muslim friend too. I am not going to speak against such practice. Nonetheless, the point is, that sort of practice is not imperative for everyone eh. If you are not arguing for nirvana, that is, if you are not trying to prove nirvana, and if you are merely expressing your satisfaction with your meditation practices, then it means you are simply giving your personal autobiography for us. However, your personal autobiography does not make any claims on us. On the other hand, if you are trying to prove nirvana, then you must give reasons. However, you already admitted that you can't do so. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3] By the way, if a devoted Christian ask you to do such and such religious practices to "verify" the union with Jesus, would you actually take his word? You may object and ask him prove that there is actually such thing called [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3] "union with Jesus". And what if he replies, [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3]"[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3][COLOR=Sienna]If you really want to, you can verify for yourself the existence of union with Jesus with a fairly little effort.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3]"[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3]Ergo, I do not think that those "do it and verify" type arguments are sound. [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3]We can use the same argument for any religious practice actually. There is no need to [I]specially focus[/I] on Buddhist practices while ignoring other religious practices.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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