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<blockquote data-quote="ela_eluwa120" data-source="post: 6182499" data-attributes="member: 193664"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 18px">The Agganna Sutta</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Thus have I heard:.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Once, the Lord Buddha was staying at Savatthi in the mansion of Migara’s mother, in</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">the East Park. And at that time Vasettha and Bharadvaja were living among the monks,</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">hoping to become monks themselves. And in the evening, the Lord rose from his</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">secluded meditation and came out of the mansion, and started walking up and down in its</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">shade.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Vasettha noticed this and he said to Bharadvaja: ‘Friend Bharadvaja, the Lord has come</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">out and is walking up and down. Let us approach him. We might be fortunate enough to</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">hear a talk on Dhamma from the lord himself.’ Yes, indeed,’ said Bharadvaja, so they</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">went up to the lord, saluted him, and fell into step with him.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Then the lord said to Vasettha: ‘Vasettha, you two are Brahmins born and bred, and you</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">have gone forth from the household life into homelessness from Brahmin families. Do</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">not the Brahmins revile and abuse you?’</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">‘Indeed, lord, the Brahmins do revile and abuse us. They don’t hold back with their usual</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">flood of reproaches.’</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">‘Well, Vasettha, what kind of reproaches do they fling at you?’</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">‘Lord, what the Brahmins say is this, "The Brahmins caste is the highest caste—other</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">castes are base; the Brahmin caste is fair, other castes are dark; Brahmins are purified,</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">non-Brahmins are not, the Brahmins are the true children of Brahma, born from his</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">mouth, born of Brahma, heirs of Brahma. And you, you have deserted the highest class</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">and gone over to the base class of shave-ling petty ascetics, servants, dark fellows born of</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Brahma’s Foot! It’s not right, it’s not proper for you to mix with such people!" That is the</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">way the Brahmins abuse us, lord.’</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">‘Then, Vasettha, the Brahmins have forgotten their ancient tradition when they say that.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Because we can see Brahmin women, the wives of Brahmins, who menstruate and</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">become pregnant, have babies, and give milk. And yet these womb-born Brahmins talk</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">about being born from Brahma’s mouth…These Brahmins misrepresent Brahma, tell lies</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">and earn much demerit.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">‘There are, Vasettha, these four castes: The Khattiyas, The Brahmins, the merchants and</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">the artisans. And sometimes a Khattiya takes life, takes what is not given, commits sexual</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">misconduct, tells lies, indulges in slander, harsh speech or idle chatter, is grasping,</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">malicious, or of wrong views. Thus such things as are immoral and considered so,</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">blameworthy and considered so, to be avoided and considered so, ways unbefitting an</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Ariyan and considered so, black with black result and blamed by the wise, are sometimes</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">to be found among the Khattiyas, and the same applies to Brahmins, merchants, and</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">artisans.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">‘Sometimes too, a Khattiya refrains from taking life, does not take what is not given,</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">refrains from sexual misconduct, speaks truth, shuns slander, harsh speech or idle chatter,</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">is not grasping, malicious, or of wrong views. Thus such things are moral and considered</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">so, blameless and considered so, to be followed and considered so, ways befitting an</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Ariyan and considered so, bright with bright results and praised by the wise, are</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">sometimes found among the Khattiyas, and likewise among Brahmins, merchants, and</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">artisans.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">‘Now since both dark and bright qualities, which are blamed and praised by the wise, are</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">scattered indiscriminately among the four castes, the wise do not recognize the claim</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">about the Brahmin caste being the highest. Why is that? Because, Vasettha, anyone from</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">the four castes who becomes a monk, an Arahant who has destroyed the corruptions, who</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">has lived the life, done what had to be done, laid down the burden, reached the highest</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">goal, destroyed the fetter of becoming, and become emancipated through superknowledge—</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">he is proclaims supreme by virtue of Dhamma and not of non-Dhamma.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">‘This illustration will make clear to you how Dhamma is best in this world and the next.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">King Pasenadi of Kosala knows: "The ascetic Gotama has gone forth from the</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">neighboring clan of the Sakyans." Now the Sakyans are vassals of the King of Kosala.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">They offer him humble service and salute him, rise and do him homage and pay him</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">fitting service and just as the Sakyans offer the King humble service and salute him, rise</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">and do him homage and pay him fitting service so likewise does the King offer humble</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">service to the Tathágata, thinking, "If the ascetic Gotama is well-born, I am ill-born; if</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">the ascetic Gotama is strong, I am weak; if the ascetic Gotama is pleasant to look at, I am</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">ill-favored; if the ascetic Gotama is influential, I am of little influence." Now it is because</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">of honoring the Dhamma, making much of the Dhamma, esteeming the Dhamma, doing</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">reverent homage to the Dhamma that King Pasenadi does humble service to the</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Tathágata and pays him fitting service:</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">In this life and the next as well.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Vasettha, all of you, though of different birth, name, clan and family, who have gone</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">forth from the household life into homelessness, if you are asked who you are, you</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">should reply: "We are ascetics, followers of the Sakyan." [2] He whose faith in the</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Tathágata is settled, rooted, established, solid, unshakable by any ascetic or Brahmin, any</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">deva or mara or Brahma or anyone in the world, can truly say: "I am a true son of the</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Blessed Lord, born of his mouth, born of Dhamma, created by Dhamma, an heir of</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Dhamma." Why is that? Because, Vasettha, this designates the Tathágata: "The Body of</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Dhamma," that is "The Body of Brahma," [3] or "Become Dhamma," that is "Become</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 15px">Brahma."</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> </p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ela_eluwa120, post: 6182499, member: 193664"] [CENTER][FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=5]The Agganna Sutta[/SIZE][/FONT] [LEFT][SIZE=4]Thus have I heard:. Once, the Lord Buddha was staying at Savatthi in the mansion of Migara’s mother, in the East Park. And at that time Vasettha and Bharadvaja were living among the monks, hoping to become monks themselves. And in the evening, the Lord rose from his secluded meditation and came out of the mansion, and started walking up and down in its shade. Vasettha noticed this and he said to Bharadvaja: ‘Friend Bharadvaja, the Lord has come out and is walking up and down. Let us approach him. We might be fortunate enough to hear a talk on Dhamma from the lord himself.’ Yes, indeed,’ said Bharadvaja, so they went up to the lord, saluted him, and fell into step with him. Then the lord said to Vasettha: ‘Vasettha, you two are Brahmins born and bred, and you have gone forth from the household life into homelessness from Brahmin families. Do not the Brahmins revile and abuse you?’ ‘Indeed, lord, the Brahmins do revile and abuse us. They don’t hold back with their usual flood of reproaches.’ ‘Well, Vasettha, what kind of reproaches do they fling at you?’ ‘Lord, what the Brahmins say is this, "The Brahmins caste is the highest caste—other castes are base; the Brahmin caste is fair, other castes are dark; Brahmins are purified, non-Brahmins are not, the Brahmins are the true children of Brahma, born from his mouth, born of Brahma, heirs of Brahma. And you, you have deserted the highest class and gone over to the base class of shave-ling petty ascetics, servants, dark fellows born of Brahma’s Foot! It’s not right, it’s not proper for you to mix with such people!" That is the way the Brahmins abuse us, lord.’ ‘Then, Vasettha, the Brahmins have forgotten their ancient tradition when they say that. Because we can see Brahmin women, the wives of Brahmins, who menstruate and become pregnant, have babies, and give milk. And yet these womb-born Brahmins talk about being born from Brahma’s mouth…These Brahmins misrepresent Brahma, tell lies and earn much demerit. ‘There are, Vasettha, these four castes: The Khattiyas, The Brahmins, the merchants and the artisans. And sometimes a Khattiya takes life, takes what is not given, commits sexual misconduct, tells lies, indulges in slander, harsh speech or idle chatter, is grasping, malicious, or of wrong views. Thus such things as are immoral and considered so, blameworthy and considered so, to be avoided and considered so, ways unbefitting an Ariyan and considered so, black with black result and blamed by the wise, are sometimes to be found among the Khattiyas, and the same applies to Brahmins, merchants, and artisans. ‘Sometimes too, a Khattiya refrains from taking life, does not take what is not given, refrains from sexual misconduct, speaks truth, shuns slander, harsh speech or idle chatter, is not grasping, malicious, or of wrong views. Thus such things are moral and considered so, blameless and considered so, to be followed and considered so, ways befitting an Ariyan and considered so, bright with bright results and praised by the wise, are sometimes found among the Khattiyas, and likewise among Brahmins, merchants, and artisans. ‘Now since both dark and bright qualities, which are blamed and praised by the wise, are scattered indiscriminately among the four castes, the wise do not recognize the claim about the Brahmin caste being the highest. Why is that? Because, Vasettha, anyone from the four castes who becomes a monk, an Arahant who has destroyed the corruptions, who has lived the life, done what had to be done, laid down the burden, reached the highest goal, destroyed the fetter of becoming, and become emancipated through superknowledge— he is proclaims supreme by virtue of Dhamma and not of non-Dhamma. ‘This illustration will make clear to you how Dhamma is best in this world and the next. King Pasenadi of Kosala knows: "The ascetic Gotama has gone forth from the neighboring clan of the Sakyans." Now the Sakyans are vassals of the King of Kosala. They offer him humble service and salute him, rise and do him homage and pay him fitting service and just as the Sakyans offer the King humble service and salute him, rise and do him homage and pay him fitting service so likewise does the King offer humble service to the Tathágata, thinking, "If the ascetic Gotama is well-born, I am ill-born; if the ascetic Gotama is strong, I am weak; if the ascetic Gotama is pleasant to look at, I am ill-favored; if the ascetic Gotama is influential, I am of little influence." Now it is because of honoring the Dhamma, making much of the Dhamma, esteeming the Dhamma, doing reverent homage to the Dhamma that King Pasenadi does humble service to the Tathágata and pays him fitting service: In this life and the next as well. Vasettha, all of you, though of different birth, name, clan and family, who have gone forth from the household life into homelessness, if you are asked who you are, you should reply: "We are ascetics, followers of the Sakyan." [2] He whose faith in the Tathágata is settled, rooted, established, solid, unshakable by any ascetic or Brahmin, any deva or mara or Brahma or anyone in the world, can truly say: "I am a true son of the Blessed Lord, born of his mouth, born of Dhamma, created by Dhamma, an heir of Dhamma." Why is that? Because, Vasettha, this designates the Tathágata: "The Body of Dhamma," that is "The Body of Brahma," [3] or "Become Dhamma," that is "Become Brahma."[/SIZE] [/LEFT] [/CENTER] [/QUOTE]
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