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<blockquote data-quote="ela_eluwa120" data-source="post: 6182704" data-attributes="member: 193664"><p><span style="font-size: 15px">‘And then, Vasettha, some of those beings, having paired off, adopted various trades, and</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">this "various" is the meaning of Vessa, which came to be the regular title for such people.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">This then is the origin of the class of Vessas, in accordance with the ancient titles that</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">were introduced for them. Their origin was from among these very same beings like</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">themselves, no different, and in accordance with Dhamma, not otherwise.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">‘And then, Vasettha, those beings that remained went in for hunting. "They Are Base</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Who Live By The Chase," and that is the meaning of Sudda, which came to be the</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">regular title for such people. This, then, is the origin of the class of Suddas [8] in</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">accordance with the ancient titles that were introduced for them. Their origin was from</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">among these very same beings like themselves, no different, and in accordance with</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Dhamma, not otherwise.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">‘And then, Vasettha, it came about that some Khattiya, dissatisfied with his own</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Dhamma, went forth from the household life into homelessness, thinking, "I will become</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">an ascetic." And a Brahmin did likewise, a Vessa did likewise, and so did a Sudda. And</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">from these four classes the class of ascetics came into existence. Their origin was from</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">among these very same beings, like themselves, no different, and in accordance with</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Dhamma, not otherwise.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">‘And, Vasettha, a Khattiya who has led a bad life in body, speech and thought, and who</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">has wrong view will, in consequence of such wrong views and deeds, at the breaking up</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">of the body after death, be reborn in a state of loss, an ill fate, the downfall, the hell-state.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">So too will a Brahmin, a Vessa or a Sudda.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">‘Likewise, a Khattiya who has led a good life in body, speech, and thought, and who has</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">right view will, in consequence of such right view and deeds, at the breaking up of the</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">body after death, be reborn in a good destiny, in a heaven-state. So too will a Brahmin, a</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Vessa or a Sudda.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">‘And a Khattiya who has performed deeds of both kinds in body, speech and thought, and</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">whose view is mixed will, in consequence of such mixed views and deeds, at the</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">breaking-up of the body after death, experience both pleasure and pain. So too will a</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Brahmin, a Vessa, or a Sudda.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">‘And a Khattiya who is restrained in Body, speech and thougth, and who has developed</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">the seven requisites of enlightenment, will attain to parinirvana in this very life. So too</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">will a Brahmin, a Vessa, or a Sudda.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">And, Vasettha, whoever of these four castes, as a monk, becomes an Arahant who has</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">destroyed the corruptions, done what had to be done, laid down the burden, attained to</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">the highest goal, completely destroyed the fetter of becoming, and become liberated by</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">the highest insight, he is declared to be chief among them in accordance with Dhamma,</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">and not otherwise.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ela_eluwa120, post: 6182704, member: 193664"] [SIZE=4]‘And then, Vasettha, some of those beings, having paired off, adopted various trades, and this "various" is the meaning of Vessa, which came to be the regular title for such people. This then is the origin of the class of Vessas, in accordance with the ancient titles that were introduced for them. Their origin was from among these very same beings like themselves, no different, and in accordance with Dhamma, not otherwise. ‘And then, Vasettha, those beings that remained went in for hunting. "They Are Base Who Live By The Chase," and that is the meaning of Sudda, which came to be the regular title for such people. This, then, is the origin of the class of Suddas [8] in accordance with the ancient titles that were introduced for them. Their origin was from among these very same beings like themselves, no different, and in accordance with Dhamma, not otherwise. ‘And then, Vasettha, it came about that some Khattiya, dissatisfied with his own Dhamma, went forth from the household life into homelessness, thinking, "I will become an ascetic." And a Brahmin did likewise, a Vessa did likewise, and so did a Sudda. And from these four classes the class of ascetics came into existence. Their origin was from among these very same beings, like themselves, no different, and in accordance with Dhamma, not otherwise. ‘And, Vasettha, a Khattiya who has led a bad life in body, speech and thought, and who has wrong view will, in consequence of such wrong views and deeds, at the breaking up of the body after death, be reborn in a state of loss, an ill fate, the downfall, the hell-state. So too will a Brahmin, a Vessa or a Sudda. ‘Likewise, a Khattiya who has led a good life in body, speech, and thought, and who has right view will, in consequence of such right view and deeds, at the breaking up of the body after death, be reborn in a good destiny, in a heaven-state. So too will a Brahmin, a Vessa or a Sudda. ‘And a Khattiya who has performed deeds of both kinds in body, speech and thought, and whose view is mixed will, in consequence of such mixed views and deeds, at the breaking-up of the body after death, experience both pleasure and pain. So too will a Brahmin, a Vessa, or a Sudda. ‘And a Khattiya who is restrained in Body, speech and thougth, and who has developed the seven requisites of enlightenment, will attain to parinirvana in this very life. So too will a Brahmin, a Vessa, or a Sudda. And, Vasettha, whoever of these four castes, as a monk, becomes an Arahant who has destroyed the corruptions, done what had to be done, laid down the burden, attained to the highest goal, completely destroyed the fetter of becoming, and become liberated by the highest insight, he is declared to be chief among them in accordance with Dhamma, and not otherwise.[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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