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<blockquote data-quote="kalyanamithra" data-source="post: 2275290" data-attributes="member: 99586"><p><strong>Have you thought why this discussion was not conclusive?</strong></p><p></p><p>Dear friends,</p><p></p><p>Please tolerate this lengthy post with Metta.</p><p></p><p>Shall we look back and see how our discussion evolved? Think how we try to justify things by citing varous finding; experimental results; references to Damma; etc. It's now at standstill, without a conclusion. Did you wonder why? </p><p></p><p>Dhamma discussions are somewhat different. Participangs discuss what disclosed by Sammasambuddha Gauthama. Anmazingly they always end up enhancing/ reenforcing our understanding. Wasn't this a Damma discussion? </p><p>It may be good if we can think that the lights are devine and be happy <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>As we saw from the posts not all of us can/should accept the lights. We should not think about lights if it hinders our coming to Shraddha.</p><p></p><p>As you know we may not see Devathawan unless we have Dibba Chakku (i.e. "divas"; divine eye) or the Devaths want us to see them (we know well that we cannot understand the mindset of Devathavan). </p><p></p><p>As you may have realized; we can never come to a conclusion on this topic by disucssing or arguing. I think our discusion is futile; unless we realize the following... <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy :)" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>The topic of our discussion was on what Budshurajanan wahanse clasified as "Loka Vishaya" - an '<strong>unthinkable</strong>' (acinteyya).</p><p></p><p>If you are not aware of unthikables, please check</p><p>Sammasambuddha Gauthama had disclosed 4 topics thinking which will lead to nothing but difficulties (ref: <a href="http://www.mettanet.org/tipitaka/2Sutta-Pitaka/4Anguttara-Nikaya/Anguttara2/4-catukkanipata/008-apannakavaggo-e.html" target="_blank">Angutthara Nikaya->Catukkanipata->Apannakavaggo->Acinteyyasuttam</a>). They are: Buddha Vishaya, Dhyana Vishaya, Kamma (vipaka) Vishaya and Loka Vishaya.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately it is entangling in these topics that prevents many of us from coming to Shraddha. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/sad.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":(" title="Sad :(" data-shortname=":(" /> You may have seen many Sri Lankans not trying to check Damma because they have presumptions that Damma is against various Dhittis they cling on to.</p><p> </p><p>Just another obervations: Although most of us (Sri Lankans) do not have Shraddha in Dhamma; we have 'blind faith' that Buddhist concepts are true (perhaps because we like to justify what we believe in..). Moreover we try to use Science to justify them. What do you think?</p><p></p><p>There is a worthy-to-listen talk by <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH0c-_JzQoE" target="_blank">Prof. Nalin Silva's talk</a> on "res vihidima" from Buddha Statue. Perhaps you may disagree with his explanation (if so, I too am on your side <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy :)" data-shortname=":)" />). But what I wanted to highlight is: how unfortunate we are using Science (which changes/evolve with every research outcome) to explain an Akalika (not affected by passin of time) Damma!</p><p></p><p>There is another thing I wanted to raise. <strong>Please correct me if you find me wrong. </strong>But I am positive that what I am going to say is in harmoney with Damma.</p><p></p><p>I have a concern in seeing the newspaper article refering to Maithree Bodhisathva; and revering a staute of the Bodhisathva. It's true that a Bodhisathwa is a glorious being who undergoes all sufering with pure compassion towards others.</p><p></p><p>But is not Boddhisathva a <strong>Pruthajjana</strong> - a person not seing/following/followed Damma to end suffering? We should not follow or have Shraddha on a Bodhisathva, as it won't help us realize Damma.</p><p></p><p>As you know Bodhisathva wandanawa is not part of Theravada practice; and followers of Sammasambuddha Gautama. </p><p></p><p>Unfortunately these Mahayana concepts are pushed on our Bikkhus by some Dayakas. Hope you had been to Keleniya Temple recently! <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/sad.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":(" title="Sad :(" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>I hope Pinwath Siridhamma Swaminwahanse would not give in to influences like that. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/shocked.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":shocked:" title="Shocked :shocked:" data-shortname=":shocked:" /></p><p></p><p>What do you think? </p><p></p><p>Theruwan saranai</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kalyanamithra, post: 2275290, member: 99586"] [b]Have you thought why this discussion was not conclusive?[/b] Dear friends, Please tolerate this lengthy post with Metta. Shall we look back and see how our discussion evolved? Think how we try to justify things by citing varous finding; experimental results; references to Damma; etc. It's now at standstill, without a conclusion. Did you wonder why? Dhamma discussions are somewhat different. Participangs discuss what disclosed by Sammasambuddha Gauthama. Anmazingly they always end up enhancing/ reenforcing our understanding. Wasn't this a Damma discussion? It may be good if we can think that the lights are devine and be happy :) As we saw from the posts not all of us can/should accept the lights. We should not think about lights if it hinders our coming to Shraddha. As you know we may not see Devathawan unless we have Dibba Chakku (i.e. "divas"; divine eye) or the Devaths want us to see them (we know well that we cannot understand the mindset of Devathavan). As you may have realized; we can never come to a conclusion on this topic by disucssing or arguing. I think our discusion is futile; unless we realize the following... :) The topic of our discussion was on what Budshurajanan wahanse clasified as "Loka Vishaya" - an '[B]unthinkable[/B]' (acinteyya). If you are not aware of unthikables, please check Sammasambuddha Gauthama had disclosed 4 topics thinking which will lead to nothing but difficulties (ref: [URL="http://www.mettanet.org/tipitaka/2Sutta-Pitaka/4Anguttara-Nikaya/Anguttara2/4-catukkanipata/008-apannakavaggo-e.html"]Angutthara Nikaya->Catukkanipata->Apannakavaggo->Acinteyyasuttam[/URL]). They are: Buddha Vishaya, Dhyana Vishaya, Kamma (vipaka) Vishaya and Loka Vishaya. Unfortunately it is entangling in these topics that prevents many of us from coming to Shraddha. :( You may have seen many Sri Lankans not trying to check Damma because they have presumptions that Damma is against various Dhittis they cling on to. Just another obervations: Although most of us (Sri Lankans) do not have Shraddha in Dhamma; we have 'blind faith' that Buddhist concepts are true (perhaps because we like to justify what we believe in..). Moreover we try to use Science to justify them. What do you think? There is a worthy-to-listen talk by [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH0c-_JzQoE"]Prof. Nalin Silva's talk[/URL] on "res vihidima" from Buddha Statue. Perhaps you may disagree with his explanation (if so, I too am on your side :)). But what I wanted to highlight is: how unfortunate we are using Science (which changes/evolve with every research outcome) to explain an Akalika (not affected by passin of time) Damma! There is another thing I wanted to raise. [B]Please correct me if you find me wrong. [/B]But I am positive that what I am going to say is in harmoney with Damma. I have a concern in seeing the newspaper article refering to Maithree Bodhisathva; and revering a staute of the Bodhisathva. It's true that a Bodhisathwa is a glorious being who undergoes all sufering with pure compassion towards others. But is not Boddhisathva a [B]Pruthajjana[/B] - a person not seing/following/followed Damma to end suffering? We should not follow or have Shraddha on a Bodhisathva, as it won't help us realize Damma. As you know Bodhisathva wandanawa is not part of Theravada practice; and followers of Sammasambuddha Gautama. Unfortunately these Mahayana concepts are pushed on our Bikkhus by some Dayakas. Hope you had been to Keleniya Temple recently! :( I hope Pinwath Siridhamma Swaminwahanse would not give in to influences like that. :shocked: What do you think? Theruwan saranai [/QUOTE]
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