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<blockquote data-quote="ela_eluwa120" data-source="post: 6441366" data-attributes="member: 193664"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px">[FONT=&quot]<span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'">Some know better.<strong><span style="color: Red"> Much of what I <span style="color: red">learnt 30 years ago has now been proved wrong.</span></span></strong></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'">There are, fortunately, many scientists with integrity and humility who affirm that science is, at best, a work still in progress. </span><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="color: Black">They know that <strong><span style="color: Red">science can only suggest the truth, but can never claim the truth</span></strong>.</span></span></span></span></span>[/FONT]<span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"> I was once told by a Buddhist G.P. that, on his first day at a medical school in Sydney, the famous Professor, head of the Medical School, began his welcoming address by stating <strong><span style="color: blue">"Half of what we are going to teach you in the next few years is wrong. Our problem is that we do not know which half it is!"</span></strong> Those were the <span style="color: gray"><strong>words of a real scientist.</strong></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="color: gray"><strong></strong></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="color: gray"><strong></strong></span></span></span></span> [FONT=&quot]<span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Some evangelical scientists would do well to reflect on the (amended) old saying "Scientists rush in where angels fear to tread" and stop pontificating about the nature of the mind, happiness and even Nirvana.<strong><span style="color: Blue"> Neurologists are especially prone to such neurosis</span> (Neurosis: an undue adherence to unrealistic ideas of things).</strong> <strong><span style="color: Red">They are claiming that the mind, awareness and will, is now adequately explained by activity in the brain. This theory was disproved over 20 years ago by</span></strong></span></span><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 15px">Prof. Lorber's discorvery</span></span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Red">of the student at Sheffield University with and IQ of 126, a First Class degree in mathematics, but with virtually no brain (Science, Vol. 210, 12 Dec 1980)!</span></strong> More recently, it was disproved by Prof. Pim Van Lommel, who demonstrated the existence of consciousness activity after clinical death, i.e. when all brain activity has ceased (Lancet, Vol. 358, 15 December 2001, p 2039).</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span>[/FONT] <span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>Although there may be correlation between a measurable activity in part of the brain and a mental impression, such co-occurrence doesn't always imply that one is the cause of the other. </strong>For instance, some years ago, research showed a clear correlation between cigarette smoking and the non-occurrence of Alzheimer's disease. It was not that smoking cigarettes somehow caused immunity from Alzheimer's, as much as the tobacco companies might have wished, it was only that <strong>many smokers</strong> did not live long enough to get Alzheimer's disease! Thus a co-incidence of two phenomena, even when repeated, does not mean that one phenomenon is the cause of the other. <strong><span style="color: Red">To claim that activity in the brain causes awareness, or mind, is plainly unscientific.</span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Red"></span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Red"></span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Red"></span></strong></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ela_eluwa120, post: 6441366, member: 193664"] [FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=4][FONT="][FONT=Arial Narrow]Some know better.[B][COLOR=Red] Much of what I [COLOR=red]learnt 30 years ago has now been proved wrong.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/B][/FONT] [FONT=Arial Narrow]There are, fortunately, many scientists with integrity and humility who affirm that science is, at best, a work still in progress. [/FONT][FONT=Arial Narrow][COLOR=Red][COLOR=Black]They know that [B][COLOR=Red]science can only suggest the truth, but can never claim the truth[/COLOR][/B].[/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=4][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=4][FONT=Arial Narrow] I was once told by a Buddhist G.P. that, on his first day at a medical school in Sydney, the famous Professor, head of the Medical School, began his welcoming address by stating [B][COLOR=blue]"Half of what we are going to teach you in the next few years is wrong. Our problem is that we do not know which half it is!"[/COLOR][/B] Those were the [COLOR=gray][B]words of a real scientist. [/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT="][FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=4]Some evangelical scientists would do well to reflect on the (amended) old saying "Scientists rush in where angels fear to tread" and stop pontificating about the nature of the mind, happiness and even Nirvana.[B][COLOR=Blue] Neurologists are especially prone to such neurosis[/COLOR] (Neurosis: an undue adherence to unrealistic ideas of things).[/B] [B][COLOR=Red]They are claiming that the mind, awareness and will, is now adequately explained by activity in the brain. This theory was disproved over 20 years ago by[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Arial Narrow][COLOR=Red][SIZE=4]Prof. Lorber's discorvery[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=4][B][COLOR=Red]of the student at Sheffield University with and IQ of 126, a First Class degree in mathematics, but with virtually no brain (Science, Vol. 210, 12 Dec 1980)![/COLOR][/B] More recently, it was disproved by Prof. Pim Van Lommel, who demonstrated the existence of consciousness activity after clinical death, i.e. when all brain activity has ceased (Lancet, Vol. 358, 15 December 2001, p 2039). [/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=4][B]Although there may be correlation between a measurable activity in part of the brain and a mental impression, such co-occurrence doesn't always imply that one is the cause of the other. [/B]For instance, some years ago, research showed a clear correlation between cigarette smoking and the non-occurrence of Alzheimer's disease. It was not that smoking cigarettes somehow caused immunity from Alzheimer's, as much as the tobacco companies might have wished, it was only that [B]many smokers[/B] did not live long enough to get Alzheimer's disease! Thus a co-incidence of two phenomena, even when repeated, does not mean that one phenomenon is the cause of the other. [B][COLOR=Red]To claim that activity in the brain causes awareness, or mind, is plainly unscientific. [/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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