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<blockquote data-quote="ela_eluwa120" data-source="post: 6441653" data-attributes="member: 193664"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 22px"><span style="color: Red"><span style="color: gray"><span style="color: Red"><strong>Buddhism is more scientific than modern science. </strong></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"></span> [FONT=&quot]</p><p>[/FONT]</p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Like science, Buddhism is based on verifiable cause-and-effect relationships. But unlike science, Buddhism challenges with thoroughness every belief. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px">The famous <strong><em><span style="color: #339966">Kalama Sutta</span></em></strong> of Buddhism states that <strong><span style="color: Blue">one cannot believe fully in "what one is taught, tradition, hearsay, scripture, logic, inference, appearance, agreement with established opinion, the seeming competence of a teacher, or even in one's own teacher". How many scientists are as rigorous in their thinking as this?</span><span style="color: Red"> </span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Red"></span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Red">Buddhism challenges everything, including logic.</span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Red"></span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Red"></span></strong></span></span> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Red">It is worth noting that Quantum Theory appeared quite illogical, even to such great scientists as Einstein</span></span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Red">, when it was first proposed.</span> It is yet to be disproved.</strong> Logic is only as reliable as the assumptions on which it is based. Buddhism trusts only clear and objective experience.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Blue">Clear experience occurs when one's measuring instruments, one's senses, are bright and undisturbed.</span></strong></span> <span style="font-size: 15px">In Buddhism, this happens when the hindrances of sloth-and-torpor and restlessness-and-remorse are both overcome. Objective experience is that which is free from all bias. In Buddhism, <strong><span style="color: Blue">the three types of bias are desire, ill will and sceptical doubt. </span></strong></span><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Red"></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Red">Desire makes one see only</span></span></strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Red"><strong> what one wants to see, it bends the truth to fit one's preferences.</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Red"><strong>I</strong></span><strong><span style="color: Red">ll will makes one blind to whatever is disturbing or disconcerting to one's views and it distorts the truth by denial. </span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Red"></span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Red"></span><span style="color: Red">Sceptical doubt stubbornly refuses to accept those truths, like rebirth, that are plainly valid but which fall outside of one's comforting worldview.</span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="color: Blue">In summary, clear and objective experience only happens when the Buddhist 'Five Hindrances' have been overcome. Only then can one trust the </span></strong></span><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Blue">data arriving through one's senses.</span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"></span> </p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Blue"><strong>Because scientists are not free of these five hindrances</strong></span></span></span>[FONT=&quot]<span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px">, they are rarely clear and objective. It is common, for example, for scientists to ignore annoying data, which do not fit their cherished theories, or else confine such evidence to oblivion by filing it away as an 'anomaly'.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Even most Buddhists aren't clear and objective. One has to have recent experience of Jhana to effectively put aside these five hindrances(according to the <strong><em><span style="color: green">Nalakapana Sutta , Majjhima</span></em></strong> No. 68)<span style="color: Red"><strong>. So only accomplished meditators can claim to be real scientists, that is, clear and objective.</strong></span></span></span>[/FONT]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ela_eluwa120, post: 6441653, member: 193664"] [FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=6][COLOR=Red][COLOR=gray][COLOR=Red][B]Buddhism is more scientific than modern science. [/B][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE] [/FONT] [FONT="] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=4]Like science, Buddhism is based on verifiable cause-and-effect relationships. But unlike science, Buddhism challenges with thoroughness every belief. The famous [B][I][COLOR=#339966]Kalama Sutta[/COLOR][/I][/B] of Buddhism states that [B][COLOR=Blue]one cannot believe fully in "what one is taught, tradition, hearsay, scripture, logic, inference, appearance, agreement with established opinion, the seeming competence of a teacher, or even in one's own teacher". How many scientists are as rigorous in their thinking as this?[/COLOR][COLOR=Red] Buddhism challenges everything, including logic. [/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=4][COLOR=Red]It is worth noting that Quantum Theory appeared quite illogical, even to such great scientists as Einstein[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=4][B][COLOR=Red], when it was first proposed.[/COLOR] It is yet to be disproved.[/B] Logic is only as reliable as the assumptions on which it is based. Buddhism trusts only clear and objective experience.[/SIZE] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=4][B][COLOR=Blue]Clear experience occurs when one's measuring instruments, one's senses, are bright and undisturbed.[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4]In Buddhism, this happens when the hindrances of sloth-and-torpor and restlessness-and-remorse are both overcome. Objective experience is that which is free from all bias. In Buddhism, [B][COLOR=Blue]the three types of bias are desire, ill will and sceptical doubt. [/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][B][SIZE=4][COLOR=Red] Desire makes one see only[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][SIZE=4][COLOR=Red][B] what one wants to see, it bends the truth to fit one's preferences.[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Red][B]I[/B][/COLOR][B][COLOR=Red]ll will makes one blind to whatever is disturbing or disconcerting to one's views and it distorts the truth by denial. [/COLOR][COLOR=Red]Sceptical doubt stubbornly refuses to accept those truths, like rebirth, that are plainly valid but which fall outside of one's comforting worldview.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=Blue]In summary, clear and objective experience only happens when the Buddhist 'Five Hindrances' have been overcome. Only then can one trust the [/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][B][SIZE=4][COLOR=Blue]data arriving through one's senses.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=4][COLOR=Blue][B]Because scientists are not free of these five hindrances[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT="][FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=4], they are rarely clear and objective. It is common, for example, for scientists to ignore annoying data, which do not fit their cherished theories, or else confine such evidence to oblivion by filing it away as an 'anomaly'. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=4]Even most Buddhists aren't clear and objective. One has to have recent experience of Jhana to effectively put aside these five hindrances(according to the [B][I][COLOR=green]Nalakapana Sutta , Majjhima[/COLOR][/I][/B] No. 68)[COLOR=Red][B]. So only accomplished meditators can claim to be real scientists, that is, clear and objective.[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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