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<blockquote data-quote="lkdood" data-source="post: 1818854" data-attributes="member: 92282"><p>Systems Made by Diebold, Sequoia and Hart InterCivic Are 'Still Going to Have Same Viral Vulnerabilities Found' During California's 2007 Study...</p><p> A bunch of world-class computer scientists <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/144431/us_presidential_election_can_be_hacked.html" target="_blank">testified publicly this week</a> that "U.S. Presidential Election Can Be Hacked".</p><p> As stunning as that sounds, there's nothing new here necessarily to readers of <a href="http://www.bradblog.com/" target="_blank">The BRAD BLOG</a>, other than the fact that outlets like the IDG News Service and <em>PCWorld</em> are reporting it --- out loud --- and that the computer scientist community, specifically those who have been studying these systems, are now out and out saying it --- in public...and out loud.</p><p> "The three systems we looked at are three of the most widely used around the nation," warned professor David Wagner of the University of California, "They're going to be using them in the 2008 elections; they're still going to have the same vulnerabilities we found."</p><p> Wagner was speaking about e-voting system made by Diebold, Sequoia Voting Systems and Hart InterCivic which he examined during CA Sec. of State Debra Bowen's independent "Top to Bottom" review last year. He "and his team found that they could introduce a computer virus to any of the three systems, which would then spread throughout the county and ultimately skew the vote count," the IDG News Service reports.</p><p> While <em>our</em> readers may be familiar with the above, our friend "DHinMI" and his fellow <a href="http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5542" target="_blank">misinformed DailyKos front pagers</a> may want to give this short article a quick look sometime soon. Particularly the part about paper ballots, and that simply <em>having them</em> is not enough...if nobody bothers to actually count them.</p><p> Here's the key grafs from the article...Along with a special clip for the dangerously misinformed/misleading dKos boys and girls...</p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>U.S. Presidential Election Can Be Hacked</strong></p><p><em>Robert McMillan, IDG News Service</em> This year, the U.S. will pick a new president using electronic voting machines that can be hacked, security experts said Thursday</p><p>...</p><p>As the November election approaches, the question before officials is not how to fix known bugs in their e-voting systems, but rather, how best to check them for fraud, said David Wagner, an associate professor with the University of California, Berkeley's computer science department.</p><p> Wagner was part of the team that audited California's voting systems during the state's review of electronic voting, and the problems his team found affect counties across the U.S. "The three systems we looked at are three of the most widely used around the nation," he said during an e-voting panel discussion at the show. "They're going to be using them in the 2008 elections; they're still going to have the same vulnerabilities we found."</p><p>...</p><p>The California audit examined systems from Diebold Elections Systems, Hart InterCivic and Sequoia Voting Systems, ultimately permitting their use in 2008, but only under certain conditions. In testing, Wagner and his team found that they could introduce a computer virus to any of the three systems, which would then spread throughout the county and ultimately skew the vote count.</p><p></p><p> And in case yutzes like disinfo specialist and DailyKos front pager, <a href="http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5702" target="_blank">Dana "DHinMI" Houle</a>, don't bother to read the full piece linked above, here's a special clipping just for him/them...</p><p> Wagner said...even the states that keep paper records are not necessarily checking their results. Only about a third of all states have records that are regularly audited.</p><p> (Never mind that <em>none</em> of those states actually does much of a <em>legitimate</em> public "audit", of those paper ballots and/or records, but you get the drift.)</p><p> So, how does that square with your <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/10/02623/2264/85/434176" target="_blank">embarrassingly inaccurate dKos front page article</a> written after the New Hampshire primary, Mr. Houle?</p><p> We're guessing you've yet to apologize to your readers for dangerously and wholly misleading them about key issues of Election Integrity, right? Of course, right.</p><p><a href="http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5890" target="_blank"></a></p><p><a href="http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5890" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5890" target="_blank">bradblog</a></p><p></p><p>lanka ve hoda velavata computer chanda pola wal na ha <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="LOL :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p>lesiyemme hora chanda dan ne puliwam <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/no.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":no:" title="No :no:" data-shortname=":no:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lkdood, post: 1818854, member: 92282"] Systems Made by Diebold, Sequoia and Hart InterCivic Are 'Still Going to Have Same Viral Vulnerabilities Found' During California's 2007 Study... A bunch of world-class computer scientists [URL="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/144431/us_presidential_election_can_be_hacked.html"]testified publicly this week[/URL] that "U.S. Presidential Election Can Be Hacked". As stunning as that sounds, there's nothing new here necessarily to readers of [URL="http://www.bradblog.com/"]The BRAD BLOG[/URL], other than the fact that outlets like the IDG News Service and [I]PCWorld[/I] are reporting it --- out loud --- and that the computer scientist community, specifically those who have been studying these systems, are now out and out saying it --- in public...and out loud. "The three systems we looked at are three of the most widely used around the nation," warned professor David Wagner of the University of California, "They're going to be using them in the 2008 elections; they're still going to have the same vulnerabilities we found." Wagner was speaking about e-voting system made by Diebold, Sequoia Voting Systems and Hart InterCivic which he examined during CA Sec. of State Debra Bowen's independent "Top to Bottom" review last year. He "and his team found that they could introduce a computer virus to any of the three systems, which would then spread throughout the county and ultimately skew the vote count," the IDG News Service reports. While [I]our[/I] readers may be familiar with the above, our friend "DHinMI" and his fellow [URL="http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5542"]misinformed DailyKos front pagers[/URL] may want to give this short article a quick look sometime soon. Particularly the part about paper ballots, and that simply [I]having them[/I] is not enough...if nobody bothers to actually count them. Here's the key grafs from the article...Along with a special clip for the dangerously misinformed/misleading dKos boys and girls... [B] U.S. Presidential Election Can Be Hacked[/B] [I]Robert McMillan, IDG News Service[/I] This year, the U.S. will pick a new president using electronic voting machines that can be hacked, security experts said Thursday ... As the November election approaches, the question before officials is not how to fix known bugs in their e-voting systems, but rather, how best to check them for fraud, said David Wagner, an associate professor with the University of California, Berkeley's computer science department. Wagner was part of the team that audited California's voting systems during the state's review of electronic voting, and the problems his team found affect counties across the U.S. "The three systems we looked at are three of the most widely used around the nation," he said during an e-voting panel discussion at the show. "They're going to be using them in the 2008 elections; they're still going to have the same vulnerabilities we found." ... The California audit examined systems from Diebold Elections Systems, Hart InterCivic and Sequoia Voting Systems, ultimately permitting their use in 2008, but only under certain conditions. In testing, Wagner and his team found that they could introduce a computer virus to any of the three systems, which would then spread throughout the county and ultimately skew the vote count. And in case yutzes like disinfo specialist and DailyKos front pager, [URL="http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5702"]Dana "DHinMI" Houle[/URL], don't bother to read the full piece linked above, here's a special clipping just for him/them... Wagner said...even the states that keep paper records are not necessarily checking their results. Only about a third of all states have records that are regularly audited. (Never mind that [I]none[/I] of those states actually does much of a [I]legitimate[/I] public "audit", of those paper ballots and/or records, but you get the drift.) So, how does that square with your [URL="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/10/02623/2264/85/434176"]embarrassingly inaccurate dKos front page article[/URL] written after the New Hampshire primary, Mr. Houle? We're guessing you've yet to apologize to your readers for dangerously and wholly misleading them about key issues of Election Integrity, right? Of course, right. [URL="http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5890"] [/URL][URL="http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5890"]bradblog[/URL] lanka ve hoda velavata computer chanda pola wal na ha :lol: lesiyemme hora chanda dan ne puliwam :no: [/QUOTE]
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