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<blockquote data-quote="kalyanamithra" data-source="post: 2282011" data-attributes="member: 99586"><p>Its pleasing to see your response.</p><p></p><p>Buddhism was not disclosed to be a religion - there were no Buddhists at the time; only Shrawakas of Sammasambuddha Gautham who followed Dhamma to the word. </p><p></p><p>Thus, anyone can practice Dhamma as long as he/she is willing to observe his/her mind; has what it needs to accept flaws and correct ones thinking according to Dhamma.</p><p></p><p>Buddhism reveals four Truths:</p><p>- the existence of suffering</p><p>- cause of suffering which all of us have</p><p>- capability we have to eliminate this cause</p><p>- the path we need to take to achieve this end</p><p></p><p>It reveals how our mind works; how volitional ('chethanathmaka') acts we do (as thoughts, words or deeds) result in vipaka (giving rise to a succession of life-and-death and all sorts of suffering).</p><p></p><p>One need not call oneself a 'Buddhist' to follow Dhamma as it is applicable to all. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy :)" data-shortname=":)" /> For instance prolonged hatred ruins the mind of any human being (Buddhists, Catholics, ..., atheist...), animal (e.g. your dog...), divine being, etc.</p><p></p><p>The world we see is what made of the inputs we get from the Six Ayathana (eye, ear, nose, tongue, body, mind). Recall how we get desire, hatred, anger, freight, etc. when watching a TV movie (even when we know what we see is not real).</p><p>Can you see how deceiving the mind is? That's why Vinnanaya is paralleled to a magician in Dhamma. We can never realize ourselves without thinking inline with Dhamma.</p><p></p><p>True Buddhists never unduly criticize other religions. Because</p><p>1. it won't help them realize Dhamma (actually it might impede the path)</p><p>2. it may create hatred and misery in the minds of those from other religions (which is too bad - because it hurts others and cause them to hate Dhamma)</p><p>Hopefully the discussion won't lead off the track criticizing other religions.</p><p></p><p>About Kalyanamithra</p><p>"Kalyanamithra" is an identity created by a group of youths to help one another. I (the user typing this ) am just a beginner in Dhamma (I am revealing things because you seem to assume I know a lot; Such presumptions might be misleading when it comes to Dhamma). Despite being a 'Buddhist' all my life, it was slightly over a year since I got exposed to Dhamma. It was thanks to Kalyanamithra Wahanse of our time: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiribathgoda_Gnanananda_Thero" target="_blank">Ven. Kiribathgoda Gnanananda Thero</a> and Mahamevnawa.</p><p></p><p>It is these Deshana that showed me what Sammasambuddah Gauthama revealed; highlighted how little I knew; showed how wrong the things I learned at school were (because aim of Dhamma seem to have been deliberately withheld from us); and motivated me to explore Dhamma.</p><p></p><p>An important cue is that we should develop Shraddha only on Sammasambuddha Gauthama (as a person); and only on Arya Sangha (as a body). We should also keep in mind how little we Shrawakas (disciples) know when compared to immense wisdom of Sammasambuddha Gauthama.</p><p></p><p>Shraddha is the key to enter the path; and Shraddhanussari state marks the Sothapaththi maga. <a href="http://www.mettanet.org/tipitaka/2Sutta-Pitaka/3Samyutta-Nikaya/Samyutta2/12-Abhisamaya-Samyutta/03-Dasabalavaggo-e.html" target="_blank">Upanisa Sutta</a> (23rd sutta on this page, in Dasabala Vagga of Abhisamaya Snyuktha) is one Sutta highlighting that. Given below is the back cover of a book on the Sutta by Ven. Gnanananda Thero; it summarizes how fulfillment of prerequisites one by one helps one attain Arhathhood, like drops of rain flowing down from the mountains to fill the great ocean. You can see where Shraddha stands in the picure.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/kalyanamithra/SF3z0VCNyOI/AAAAAAAAAzM/-eHI3lwl_X8/s400/upanisa.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>From observation I know that many users of ElaKiri are keen on Buddhism. So we may be able to continue discussion; and help one another to understand Dhamma. Let's try to keep this a Dhamma discussion <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Theruwan saranai</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kalyanamithra, post: 2282011, member: 99586"] Its pleasing to see your response. Buddhism was not disclosed to be a religion - there were no Buddhists at the time; only Shrawakas of Sammasambuddha Gautham who followed Dhamma to the word. Thus, anyone can practice Dhamma as long as he/she is willing to observe his/her mind; has what it needs to accept flaws and correct ones thinking according to Dhamma. Buddhism reveals four Truths: - the existence of suffering - cause of suffering which all of us have - capability we have to eliminate this cause - the path we need to take to achieve this end It reveals how our mind works; how volitional ('chethanathmaka') acts we do (as thoughts, words or deeds) result in vipaka (giving rise to a succession of life-and-death and all sorts of suffering). One need not call oneself a 'Buddhist' to follow Dhamma as it is applicable to all. :) For instance prolonged hatred ruins the mind of any human being (Buddhists, Catholics, ..., atheist...), animal (e.g. your dog...), divine being, etc. The world we see is what made of the inputs we get from the Six Ayathana (eye, ear, nose, tongue, body, mind). Recall how we get desire, hatred, anger, freight, etc. when watching a TV movie (even when we know what we see is not real). Can you see how deceiving the mind is? That's why Vinnanaya is paralleled to a magician in Dhamma. We can never realize ourselves without thinking inline with Dhamma. True Buddhists never unduly criticize other religions. Because 1. it won't help them realize Dhamma (actually it might impede the path) 2. it may create hatred and misery in the minds of those from other religions (which is too bad - because it hurts others and cause them to hate Dhamma) Hopefully the discussion won't lead off the track criticizing other religions. About Kalyanamithra "Kalyanamithra" is an identity created by a group of youths to help one another. I (the user typing this ) am just a beginner in Dhamma (I am revealing things because you seem to assume I know a lot; Such presumptions might be misleading when it comes to Dhamma). Despite being a 'Buddhist' all my life, it was slightly over a year since I got exposed to Dhamma. It was thanks to Kalyanamithra Wahanse of our time: [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiribathgoda_Gnanananda_Thero"]Ven. Kiribathgoda Gnanananda Thero[/URL] and Mahamevnawa. It is these Deshana that showed me what Sammasambuddah Gauthama revealed; highlighted how little I knew; showed how wrong the things I learned at school were (because aim of Dhamma seem to have been deliberately withheld from us); and motivated me to explore Dhamma. An important cue is that we should develop Shraddha only on Sammasambuddha Gauthama (as a person); and only on Arya Sangha (as a body). We should also keep in mind how little we Shrawakas (disciples) know when compared to immense wisdom of Sammasambuddha Gauthama. Shraddha is the key to enter the path; and Shraddhanussari state marks the Sothapaththi maga. [URL="http://www.mettanet.org/tipitaka/2Sutta-Pitaka/3Samyutta-Nikaya/Samyutta2/12-Abhisamaya-Samyutta/03-Dasabalavaggo-e.html"]Upanisa Sutta[/URL] (23rd sutta on this page, in Dasabala Vagga of Abhisamaya Snyuktha) is one Sutta highlighting that. Given below is the back cover of a book on the Sutta by Ven. Gnanananda Thero; it summarizes how fulfillment of prerequisites one by one helps one attain Arhathhood, like drops of rain flowing down from the mountains to fill the great ocean. You can see where Shraddha stands in the picure. [IMG]http://lh4.ggpht.com/kalyanamithra/SF3z0VCNyOI/AAAAAAAAAzM/-eHI3lwl_X8/s400/upanisa.jpg[/IMG] From observation I know that many users of ElaKiri are keen on Buddhism. So we may be able to continue discussion; and help one another to understand Dhamma. Let's try to keep this a Dhamma discussion :) Theruwan saranai [/QUOTE]
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