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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alucard_SxE" data-source="post: 20126428" data-attributes="member: 531919">Ok. I'll just paste the conversation that was occurred there as written in the books.    “I looked for you on the Trident,” Ned said to them.“We were not there,” Ser Gerold answered.“Woe to the Usurper if we had been,” said Ser Oswell.“When King's Landing fell, Ser Jaime slew your king with a golden sword, and I wondered where you were.”“Far away,” Ser Gerold said, “or Aerys would yet sit the Iron Throne, and our false brother would burn in seven hells.”“I came down on Storm's End to lift the siege,” Ned told them, and the Lords Tyrell and Redwyne dipped their banners, and all their knights bent the knee to pledge us fealty. I was certain you would be among them.”“Our knees do not bend easily,” said Ser Arthur Dayne.“Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him.”“Ser Willem is a good man and true,” said Ser Oswell.“But not of the Kingsguard,” Ser Gerold pointed out. “The Kingsguard does not flee.”“Then or now,” said Ser Arthur. He donned his helm.“We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Gerold.Ned’s wraiths moved up beside him, with shadow swords in hand. They were seven against three.“And now it begins,” said Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. He unsheathed Dawn and held it with both hands. The blade was pale as milkglass, alive with light.“No,” Ned said with sadness in his voice. “Now it ends.” Or you can check it out here. <a href="http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Raid_on_the_Tower_of_Joy" target="_blank">http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Raid_on_the_Tower_of_Joy</a>The kingsguard is the most highest position a knight could achieve in westeros. And the oath that the kingsguard takes is much more higher than another.They are sworn to protect their king and the royal family with their own lives, to obey his commands, and to keep his secrets. They are sworn for life and are forbidden from owning land, taking a wife, or fathering children, although they can have non-hereditary commands, such as being warden or Hand of the King.They did not disobey. Doesn't matter the situation or whether they were blocking a reuinion of brother & sister. And eddard highly respects that.And to their eyes Eddard & co is the enemy. There are the ones who partnered with the usurper. And the kingsguards loyalty stays with the king. Until they die This is not stated anywhere as I remember. Only mentioned as a bloody battle and that howland reed & ned survived. Although in the first book Eddard dreams some events of the battle as I remember. Gotta look into that.And the fight was seven against threeJaime killed aryes because he was going to burn everyone alive using wildfire with the help of rossart.And even then he was wrong to do so. He swore an oath to protect the king. The killed the same king later on.Moralities doesn't count here. It's the same as being in an army. soldiers opinions, morals doesn't matter that much. That's why eddard despises him and tells Robert to at least stip him of the white cloak and send him to the wall.He could've at least hold aryes and not kill him to be held at trial.But of course this's a wonderful thing in the story. People may look into the characters in different ways. And I justify Sir Arthur & Hightower's actions and not Jaime killing the king.In the later books GRRM writes POV chapetrs of Jaime. During these events we feel that he's changed and that he regrets some of his actions back then.“That boy had wanted to be Ser Arthur Dayne, but someplace along the way he had become the Smiling Knight instead.    ”– Jaime's thoughts on himself“I have made kings and unmade them. Sansa Stark is my last chance for honor.”- Jaime to Brienne of Tarth“Make a habit of it, Lannister, and one day men might call you Goldenhand after all. Goldenhand the Just.”- thoughts of Jaime after hanging outlaws</blockquote>

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