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<blockquote data-quote="Alucard_SxE" data-source="post: 20136040" data-attributes="member: 531919"><p><span style="font-size: 12px">If you think that Jaime had a concious at that time, then you are wrong. Actually the only thing he cared about that time is Cersei. He didn't want to be knighted. He didn't want to be in the kingsguard. He didn't want to stay in Kings Landing. All he wanted was Cersei. And he was pretty stupid & wasn't a thinker. I'll get to this a bit later.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Sir Gerold clearly knows what's right and wrong. He thinks he understand what Jaime is thinking (Judging the actions of Aryes burning Rickard) so it makes clear that he has those thoughts too. But he don't fall into those those.Because he Can't. Because for the simple matter of the vow & oath.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Westeros wasn't a democracy. A king is anointed and he rules. And if the king is deemed unworthy of that post, then atleast the king should realise it and step down or he should be deemed unworthy and forcefully taken off his position by force. And in a period like that honour and loyalty is something much more important.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">And the Vows these people take, doesn't only define them by their houses, and their sons & daughters and generations to come. The honour and the name of that house lies within the honour they take. Sir Gerold does feel these things. He does see the consequences. But the vow that binds himself and his acts to hold those vows defines him. He simply cannot turn against the king. It's not their right. When he took the oath to become a member of the Kingsguard he knew what he was getting into. He knew of the choices and decisions that he will have to make in the future. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">But Jaimewasn't like this. He simply,during that time does not care about anything other than Cersei. Even in the quote you quoted, it is said that he was thinking of Cersei.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Nope this isn't true. He simply doesn't care what happens to others. The only thought on his mind is about Cersei. He might have seen the disaster Areys was going to cause. But don't tell me that he killed aryes because of his oaths.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">He was a person who never took anything seriously including his oaths. It's not his kind heart that led him to killing aryes. He was simply fed up with everything.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">But then, from the Feast OF Crows, a new man is born. A man who is becoming intelligent, a thinker. Now if this NEW JAIME was to be in Aryes' kingsguard and killed him, then I'd side with you. But the Jaime back then was no man like that.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alucard_SxE, post: 20136040, member: 531919"] [SIZE="3"]If you think that Jaime had a concious at that time, then you are wrong. Actually the only thing he cared about that time is Cersei. He didn't want to be knighted. He didn't want to be in the kingsguard. He didn't want to stay in Kings Landing. All he wanted was Cersei. And he was pretty stupid & wasn't a thinker. I'll get to this a bit later. Sir Gerold clearly knows what's right and wrong. He thinks he understand what Jaime is thinking (Judging the actions of Aryes burning Rickard) so it makes clear that he has those thoughts too. But he don't fall into those those.Because he Can't. Because for the simple matter of the vow & oath. Westeros wasn't a democracy. A king is anointed and he rules. And if the king is deemed unworthy of that post, then atleast the king should realise it and step down or he should be deemed unworthy and forcefully taken off his position by force. And in a period like that honour and loyalty is something much more important. And the Vows these people take, doesn't only define them by their houses, and their sons & daughters and generations to come. The honour and the name of that house lies within the honour they take. Sir Gerold does feel these things. He does see the consequences. But the vow that binds himself and his acts to hold those vows defines him. He simply cannot turn against the king. It's not their right. When he took the oath to become a member of the Kingsguard he knew what he was getting into. He knew of the choices and decisions that he will have to make in the future. But Jaimewasn't like this. He simply,during that time does not care about anything other than Cersei. Even in the quote you quoted, it is said that he was thinking of Cersei. Nope this isn't true. He simply doesn't care what happens to others. The only thought on his mind is about Cersei. He might have seen the disaster Areys was going to cause. But don't tell me that he killed aryes because of his oaths. He was a person who never took anything seriously including his oaths. It's not his kind heart that led him to killing aryes. He was simply fed up with everything. But then, from the Feast OF Crows, a new man is born. A man who is becoming intelligent, a thinker. Now if this NEW JAIME was to be in Aryes' kingsguard and killed him, then I'd side with you. But the Jaime back then was no man like that.[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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