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<blockquote data-quote="Mononoke" data-source="post: 5713076" data-attributes="member: 238323"><p>Of course not, Physics works according to laws. And no, your god did not give us these laws. If you say so show me the evidence. Show me sentience in Heisenberg?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Bullshit! it is fairly obvious that you don't know anything about the formation of the universe. There are several competing theories about the beginning of the universe, and none of them talk about a hot gases initial state. If you want specifics I can give you them. The 'smoky' stage of the universe you talk about comes much later on, about 400000 years into the universe. At that sate the universe had much lower densities as well as lower temperatures. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What smoke material. Stars are not formed from remnants of the big bang. If you think nebula are made out of the 'smokey' material you talked about earlier you are wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This smokey description of the universe was first given by Plato in his Timeus, a long time before Mohammad:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here he talks about making order out of a chaotic substance and creating the universe as we know it. Actually, Plato's description is much closer to physics. What is this nonsense about separating things? Nothing got separated, structures emerged or formed according to the laws of physics. It wasn't like God ripped the earth and the sun apart. It is fairly obvious that the Qu'ranic creation story falls light years short of actual science.</p><p></p><p>You use the word 'homogeneous', can you tell me exactly from where in the Qu'ran you got that word</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mononoke, post: 5713076, member: 238323"] Of course not, Physics works according to laws. And no, your god did not give us these laws. If you say so show me the evidence. Show me sentience in Heisenberg? Bullshit! it is fairly obvious that you don't know anything about the formation of the universe. There are several competing theories about the beginning of the universe, and none of them talk about a hot gases initial state. If you want specifics I can give you them. The 'smoky' stage of the universe you talk about comes much later on, about 400000 years into the universe. At that sate the universe had much lower densities as well as lower temperatures. What smoke material. Stars are not formed from remnants of the big bang. If you think nebula are made out of the 'smokey' material you talked about earlier you are wrong. This smokey description of the universe was first given by Plato in his Timeus, a long time before Mohammad: Here he talks about making order out of a chaotic substance and creating the universe as we know it. Actually, Plato's description is much closer to physics. What is this nonsense about separating things? Nothing got separated, structures emerged or formed according to the laws of physics. It wasn't like God ripped the earth and the sun apart. It is fairly obvious that the Qu'ranic creation story falls light years short of actual science. You use the word 'homogeneous', can you tell me exactly from where in the Qu'ran you got that word [/QUOTE]
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