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<blockquote data-quote="Hettiarachi" data-source="post: 15044624" data-attributes="member: 280749"><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><strong>I could read very interesting points about Buddhism, any buddhist friends could you please confirm whether following are actually contradicting.</strong></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Anyone who is accustomed to the view that contradictions cannot be true, and cannot be</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">accepted, and who reads texts in the Buddhists traditions will be struck by the fact that</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">they frequently contain contradictions. Just consider, for example:</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(1) Twenty years a pilgrim,</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Footing east and west.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Back in Seiken,</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I’ve not moved an inch.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">[Seiken-Chiju, Poem]1</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(2) Who says my poetry is poetry?</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">My poetry is not poetry.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Provided you understand my poetry as not poetry</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Only then can we discourse together about poetry.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">[RyØkan, Poem]2</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(3) What the realised one has described as the possession of distinctive features is itself the</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">non-possession of distinctive features.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">[Vajracchedika 5]3</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(4) The very same perfection of insight, Subhuti, which the realised one has preached is</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">indeed perfectionless.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">[Vajracchedika 13b]4</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(5) Furthermore, Subhuti, any perfection of acceptance the realised one has is indeed a nonperfection.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">[Vajracchedika 14e]5</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(6) Everything is real and is not real,</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Both real and not real,</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Neither real nor not real.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">This is Lord Buddha's teaching.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">[MMK XVIII: 8]6</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(7) Just understand that birth-and-death is itself nirvana. There is nothing such as birth and</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">death to be avoided. There is nothing such as nirvana to be sought. Only when you</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">realise this are you free from birth and death.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">[DØgen, ShØji]7</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(8) As all things are buddha-dharma, there is delusion and realisation, practice, birth and</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">death, and there are buddhas and sentient beings. As the myriad things are without an</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">abiding self, there is no delusion, no realization, no buddha, no sentient being, no birth</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">and death.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">[DØgen, GenjØkØan]8</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(9) Nothing (mu) is absolutely contradictory and self-identical. From this point, every being</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(u) is being and at the same time nothing.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">[Nishida, ‘Preface’]9</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hettiarachi, post: 15044624, member: 280749"] [SIZE="4"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"][B]I could read very interesting points about Buddhism, any buddhist friends could you please confirm whether following are actually contradicting.[/B][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="3"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"][SIZE="3"]Anyone who is accustomed to the view that contradictions cannot be true, and cannot be accepted, and who reads texts in the Buddhists traditions will be struck by the fact that they frequently contain contradictions. Just consider, for example: (1) Twenty years a pilgrim, Footing east and west. Back in Seiken, I’ve not moved an inch. [Seiken-Chiju, Poem]1 (2) Who says my poetry is poetry? My poetry is not poetry. Provided you understand my poetry as not poetry Only then can we discourse together about poetry. [RyØkan, Poem]2 (3) What the realised one has described as the possession of distinctive features is itself the non-possession of distinctive features. [Vajracchedika 5]3 (4) The very same perfection of insight, Subhuti, which the realised one has preached is indeed perfectionless. [Vajracchedika 13b]4 (5) Furthermore, Subhuti, any perfection of acceptance the realised one has is indeed a nonperfection. [Vajracchedika 14e]5 (6) Everything is real and is not real, Both real and not real, Neither real nor not real. This is Lord Buddha's teaching. [MMK XVIII: 8]6 (7) Just understand that birth-and-death is itself nirvana. There is nothing such as birth and death to be avoided. There is nothing such as nirvana to be sought. Only when you realise this are you free from birth and death. [DØgen, ShØji]7 (8) As all things are buddha-dharma, there is delusion and realisation, practice, birth and death, and there are buddhas and sentient beings. As the myriad things are without an abiding self, there is no delusion, no realization, no buddha, no sentient being, no birth and death. [DØgen, GenjØkØan]8 (9) Nothing (mu) is absolutely contradictory and self-identical. From this point, every being (u) is being and at the same time nothing. [Nishida, ‘Preface’]9 [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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