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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hafizsaad" data-source="post: 6743120" data-attributes="member: 153303">First things, Muslim don't have just blind faith on existence of God like opposite party in their idealogy (atheist), they have  scientific proof to the extent required to clear faith  but what you asked about who created God ? is not fit on the meaning of God, You first need to know the meaning and Definition of God. Q - 1. How can any rational/intuitional proof of God argument be made based on the reality we see, when Quantum physics shows us that our intution on some things can be wrong. The universe doe snot work according to our ration, we so how can we make rational arguments about God's exitence ?Ans - Intuition and rationalityFirst of all, we should understand that there's a difference between rational proof and intuitional. A rational proof, is based on logical thinking and deductions. Our intuition on the other hand is based on experiences. We constantly see things falling down to earth, so intuitionally we start understanding how gravity works. That's what it basically boils down to, predictability by experience. the sun has always come up each morning, so we assume it'll come up tomorrow as well. Anyway, so my point is, intuition and logic are two separate things. An idea might be logical, and it might be intuitional at the same time, or it can be one of those but not the other, or it could be neither. But whether or not something is intuitive/predictable has no bearing on whether or not it is logical and vice versa.Quantum mechanicsThe reason that quantum mechanics is sometimes counter-intuitive. Is because we do not use our intuition logically. What happens is that people assume that the laws of the large scale is the same as the laws of the small scale. That is of course a baseless assumption. For example, to us humans, gravity is one of the most familiar forces we deal with in our daily live, so we have a strong intuitional feel about how it works. An amoeba on the other hand; doesn't even know gravity. To it, there is absolutely no distinction between up or down, left or right and so on. The water-tension created by the electromagnetic force of electrons in water-molecules on the other hand is a very important force for it, where as most humans are barely aware of it. So if we form our intuition by experience, it's very normal that our intuition fails in a scale where we have no experience in. Rational working universe.However, whether or not our intuition is right/wrong, has no bearing on whether or not the universe works in a rational, logical way. I'm not aware of anything illogical or counter-rational in the universe. Everything seems to make sense; at least that is to the extend that we understand it.</blockquote>

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