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<blockquote data-quote="hafizsaad" data-source="post: 6786236" data-attributes="member: 153303"><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">Brother sorry for Big detail, i think the topic require this.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">Brother any person will comment like this if he has no knowledge and concept of Islamic Theology.In response to the question, “If God exists why is there evil in the world?” I would respond by saying there is no problem of evil at all. Things undesirable to humans (not necessarily evil) do exist or occur in the world, but that is not contradictory to God existing or God’s power or attributes. This is easy to understand when we keep in mind four issues:</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">1. God’s attributes</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">2. The Insignificance of this world and the primacy of the eternal Hereafter</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">3. God’s Purpose for creating this world as a test.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">4. God’s Wisdom and our limited knowledge</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">For Detail of Every Point <a href="http://islamrevived.blogspot.com/2010/01/if-god-exists-why-is-there-evil-in.html" target="_blank"><strong><u>see</u></strong></a></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">Brother Goodness would not be possible without the resistance of evil. The evil in the world is meant to be overcome. Whoever asks why must there be evil when God can remove it is missing the point. without evil there could be no moral or spiritual development.if there is no evil then there is no need for examination.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">if there was no night; we would never appreciate the light of day. if there was no poverty; we would never appreciate the riches Allah has given us. if there was no illness; we would never be grateful for the health that Allah has given us. see William Blake beautiful poem <a href="http://www.kalliope.org/digt.pl?longdid=blake1999041345" target="_blank">The Human Abstract</a></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">Allah created this world with lot of diversity <strong>to make it a test for us</strong>, some will pass and some will fail. without such diversity it will be a vapid world and there will be no reason to test humans.he test who will remain righteous in that evil or worst situation .</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="color: Navy">i suggest that those who question the existence of Allah using this argument must consider the whole case. if Allah has created someone terminally ill; then they must also agree that He remains the all-merciful due to His treatment of the ill in the hereafter. if Allah had created the ill and had then made them ressponsible too; then one could have questioned islamic belief but when the bigger picture is looked at; we learn that there is no being more merciful and compassionate than Allah.</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">i hope this will clear otherwise without seeking the actual idea one can ask any question like below:</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">- why do you exist?</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">- why do you need a bumpy face? why can't it be just flat and square with nice round holes on one side neatly lined on one edge? [think of a flat screen]</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">- why do you need to breathe? is it not an impediment for you to go underwater? is it not zulm that a fish can live underwater, and you cannot?</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">- why can't children grow on trees? instead of the labor and pain? and nine months wait...</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">and here is a loaded question:</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">why do you die? why should you not live forever? and why should you suffer? why should you not live a life without sickness or pain? why can't there be a world without sin?</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">Everyone is going to taste death, and We shall make a trial of you with evil and with good, and to Us you will be returned. Quran (21,35)</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="color: Teal"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="color: Teal">which sentenses </span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="color: Teal"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOliveGreen"><span style="color: Teal"></span></span><span style="color: Purple"></span></p><p><span style="color: Purple"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">Brother i think this Complex Concept discussed here many time, simply in any spare time we can thought about the creator of nature, the very first sell and soul creator...the controler of this complex universe with accuracy, the infinite universe etc.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Purple"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">we muslim dont think and says with our own Philosophy and to convince other to our self God but we are warned and aware by Our Allah through his Prophets and we have the Book of God words, which accurately describes all this. The Quran.</span></span>.</span></p><p><span style="color: Purple"></span></p><p><span style="color: Purple"></span></p><p></p><p><img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/yes.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":yes:" title="Yes :yes:" data-shortname=":yes:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hafizsaad, post: 6786236, member: 153303"] [COLOR=DarkOliveGreen] [SIZE="3"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]Brother sorry for Big detail, i think the topic require this. Brother any person will comment like this if he has no knowledge and concept of Islamic Theology.In response to the question, “If God exists why is there evil in the world?” I would respond by saying there is no problem of evil at all. Things undesirable to humans (not necessarily evil) do exist or occur in the world, but that is not contradictory to God existing or God’s power or attributes. This is easy to understand when we keep in mind four issues: 1. God’s attributes 2. The Insignificance of this world and the primacy of the eternal Hereafter 3. God’s Purpose for creating this world as a test. 4. God’s Wisdom and our limited knowledge For Detail of Every Point [URL="http://islamrevived.blogspot.com/2010/01/if-god-exists-why-is-there-evil-in.html"][B][U]see[/U][/B][/URL] Brother Goodness would not be possible without the resistance of evil. The evil in the world is meant to be overcome. Whoever asks why must there be evil when God can remove it is missing the point. without evil there could be no moral or spiritual development.if there is no evil then there is no need for examination. if there was no night; we would never appreciate the light of day. if there was no poverty; we would never appreciate the riches Allah has given us. if there was no illness; we would never be grateful for the health that Allah has given us. see William Blake beautiful poem [URL="http://www.kalliope.org/digt.pl?longdid=blake1999041345"]The Human Abstract[/URL] Allah created this world with lot of diversity [B]to make it a test for us[/B], some will pass and some will fail. without such diversity it will be a vapid world and there will be no reason to test humans.he test who will remain righteous in that evil or worst situation . [COLOR="Navy"]i suggest that those who question the existence of Allah using this argument must consider the whole case. if Allah has created someone terminally ill; then they must also agree that He remains the all-merciful due to His treatment of the ill in the hereafter. if Allah had created the ill and had then made them ressponsible too; then one could have questioned islamic belief but when the bigger picture is looked at; we learn that there is no being more merciful and compassionate than Allah.[/COLOR] i hope this will clear otherwise without seeking the actual idea one can ask any question like below: - why do you exist? - why do you need a bumpy face? why can't it be just flat and square with nice round holes on one side neatly lined on one edge? [think of a flat screen] - why do you need to breathe? is it not an impediment for you to go underwater? is it not zulm that a fish can live underwater, and you cannot? - why can't children grow on trees? instead of the labor and pain? and nine months wait... and here is a loaded question: why do you die? why should you not live forever? and why should you suffer? why should you not live a life without sickness or pain? why can't there be a world without sin?[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="4"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]Everyone is going to taste death, and We shall make a trial of you with evil and with good, and to Us you will be returned. Quran (21,35)[/FONT][/SIZE] [COLOR=Teal] which sentenses [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=Purple] [SIZE="3"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]Brother i think this Complex Concept discussed here many time, simply in any spare time we can thought about the creator of nature, the very first sell and soul creator...the controler of this complex universe with accuracy, the infinite universe etc. we muslim dont think and says with our own Philosophy and to convince other to our self God but we are warned and aware by Our Allah through his Prophets and we have the Book of God words, which accurately describes all this. The Quran.[/FONT][/SIZE]. [/COLOR] :yes: [/QUOTE]
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