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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AncientGlory" data-source="post: 7942533" data-attributes="member: 262433">Are you talking about the black smith here or Muhammad? I'm not clear on that.Firstly I do not see the similarity between your two statements. A religiously biased mind may see it. Do you believe that a clerk at a patent office came up with a theory called relativity?Secondly I did not say a black smith taught Muhammad Qaran, so this is irrelevant to me.Please give your sources.Maybe. That's why I did not claim such an assumption.No one need to visit or meet someone to learn what his/her beliefs are. My point is there were religious concepts, established at the time. When Muhammad came up with Islam, there were no original concepts in it. It leaves a margin for doubt, whether he copied the whole thing. No one will be able to prove it or disprove it. And you call this logic. Ok, first no one really need to meet prophet for him to come up with something. I have never met Romans, but I know what GOD they worshiped.Secondly, whatever prophet learned he did it before he claimed to be a prophet. So are you saying his life was an open book before he came up with quran?I don't know where you come up with this information. Almost in all the sources(including wikipedia..lol) I checked about his life, there have been a time in his life where he was traveling with caravans as a merchant(possible from age 9-25), which means he got the chance to meet plenty of Christians and Jews. He has been going to a cave to meditate for like 10 years and it is said here, at the age of 40 he was approached by the angel Gabriel.(1) His life was not an open book for all to see until the age of 40.(2) Is the story saying Muhammad claimed to be approached by angel Gabriel true according to you?Again you are talking about Muhammad the prophet. It is what he did before becoming a prophet that will bring any value to this discussion. Also what are your sources?Can't you see the poor logic in this? What he did after coming up with quran is irrelevant.Hmm, ok here is the thing. To see logic, you need to be unbiased. Think again about this statement and see whether you see something wrong.I'm just gonna ignore this. We have not come to a conclusion yet. I suggest you delete parts like this when you copy things in future.How do you know this for a fact? I'm positive that Muhammad was a well literate man. What are your sources?(Other than quran).And you think it is logical to say above verse speaks of Muhammad???Quran testifying quran is the old "Book is true because book says it is true" argument. I think we are pass that.I will get back to the rest of the post later..  </blockquote>

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