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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dilankandy" data-source="post: 9692582" data-attributes="member: 6909">I agree with you about men and women can have different rules part. But If those rules imply any disadvantages or unfair judgments on the other party then it should be changed and of course then that rule is not fair at all. Like men are allowed to beat women and women are not allowed do so. It clearly violates the Human right of everyone being treated equally.I told you we are talking about legal rights here. Not cultural rights. In sri lanka culture women are not allowed to lose their virginity before marriage. But legally there is no such a rule.I think you cannot understand this because your religion is Islam and you are a (probably) devoted Muslim who never think or seen out of your frame. You will never let your women wear short dresses or drink or smoke. But People who live in countries such as Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan has the religion Islam but are not Muslims. Their men and women wear anything drink and sometimes I have seen them eating pork too.So still your argument is not valid. The topic is gender discrimination and wife beating is allowed in islam and still you couldn't prove that it is not. In fact you agreed that men can beat or "tap" women. Therefore we only have to settle down with gender discrimination.First of all None of us who are arguing with you do not believe in so called god. If you wanna prove the existence of god you should do it in another thread. We only discuss about the legal rights of women in islam. Don't bring "god did that, He did this, He said this, " statements because We need your own opinion. Not what god said. If you are afraid to think for your self then there is no use arguing with you. And I'm not comparing men and women. I'm comparing their rights. If rights of one party overcomes the other party then that is a discrimination. I just brought the fact that females of some species are more stronger than males to prove that you so called GOD's design is not so intelligent. Just tell me is it fare and ok to make the females of pack (social) animals such as wolves or horses as powerful as their males but not make women powerful as men. If "GOD" had done that don't you think that he wouldn't have to put so many restrictions on women?If Quran provides you enough proofs to believe in god then Gospel of FSM provides very accurate scientific and reasonable proofs to believe in him. Don't say that god exists because he says so in his book which you need to learn ancient arabic to understand properly.Really? Lately have you seen birth rates among Muslim counties and communities?Of course then you have no idea who will go to heaven. That's great to know.Let me ask you this. "God" sent his last two messengers within about 600 years and he sent enough proof to believe in him for those people. And since then he has been silent for a long long time. Haven't you ever thought about the fact that if he could appear to a president of a powerful nation such as America or China then it is a static proof and of course whole world will accept his existence? Why would he want people to believe in a thousand years old book which is greatly being challenged for its contradictory language and evidence. If he refuse to do that then all I have to say that he doesn't want people to go to heaven and he is an egoistic control freak. If he really loves his creations then he could even appear to each individual. You may give thousand answers to this but dude, start thinking.And about your second opinion I don't think its unfair. Because as a conscious and unbiased person I can understand that it is the right thing and that's how it should be. And also there is sect or Christians that believe that fact. Search for the Unificationist Church. I once met a Scandinavian guy from that religion.So tell me your opinion?   Is it fair or not. Should all nonbelievers be condemned to hell regardless of there good works???     Then what about all those people killed in Indonesia and Pakistan for blaspheming?? What about people like salman rushdi?? What about all the tribal children and women killed by Muhammad him self. What about the rule of giving death penalty to a person who leaves islam?? Many of them were innocent people who never harmed anyone else. I'm not gonna discus about "islam never kills innocents" cause that is of course useless and need no discussions.</blockquote>

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