Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="dilankandy" data-source="post: 9698737" data-attributes="member: 6909">Don't escape from question. The topic is weather Gender discrimination and wife beating is allowed or not. In here you just try to justify the reason to do that. So I think every one would agree that the question is answered.Just what I told. No rights for anyone just bunch of ancient rules.<img src="http://c0022506.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/4_34.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />Sahih InternationalMen are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.Quran 4,34So this clearly says if your wife shows arrogance (does not agree with you) beat them until they agree with you. This should be discussed in another discussion. Language in quran is difficult. I agree. In fact I admire the poetry in quran. But if it is so difficult to understand and translate how can others understand it so easily. Don't you contradict your self here? Quantum physics is difficult and difficult to interpret. But why won't people understand that so easily??Oh yeah. the so called "Miracles of Quran". I'm not gonna answer this since this has been answered many times and Ahmed is doing a great deal of work in that section.1. This so called "God" loves all of us. Including me and you.2. ""   ""    ""   ""    is all mercyful and all forgiving.3. People who did good deeds (As god commanded) even they didn't believe there is a "God" goes to hell.Conclusion - God is not mercyful and allforgiving.That's the logic. no needon the other hand government is not god and government only has a limited capacity for students. If government had the chance to make everyone educated it would. Never try to compare this "GOD" with any one since god does not behave as mere mortals(That is in the description of god)I'm not gonna discuss this anymore since it's not related to topic<img src="http://c0022506.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/4_89.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />Yusuf AliThey but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;- quran/4/89Muhammad Never Killed ChildrenThe Truth:It is probably fair to say that Muhammad did not approve of the intentional killing of children.  A verse from the Qur’an laments the pre-Islamic Arab practice of infanticide against baby girls.  Other evidence from the Hadith suggests that he instructed his men not to kill children in battle, if it could be avoided, but to capture them for slavery. Children were often given a specific reprieve from the mandate to "kill those who disbelieve in Allah":    [Muhammad said] “Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.  Do not be deceitful with the spoils; do not be treacherous, nor mutilate nor kill children.” (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992)But Muhammad’s definition of a child was not the same as our modern understanding.  Following the surrender of the Qurayza stronghold, he ordered the execution of every male child who had reached puberty.  His men had the boys drop their pants so that they could chop the head off of anyone with pubic hair (Sahih Muslim 4390).Keep in mind that many Muslims often insist that Aisha reached puberty at age nine, since that is the age that Muhammad began having sex with her.  If so, then the age for “manhood” among boys might have been considered around twelve.Muhammad also played a bit loose with the lives of women and children during wartime.  As recorded in both Bukhari and Sahih Muslim:    It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: “They are from them.” (Sahih Muslim 4322, see also Bukhari 52:256)This does not justify the targeted killing of women and children per se, but it does prove that collateral damage is entirely acceptable if it accomplishes the military goal of spreading Islamic rule.  It is doubtful that Muhammad would ever shrug off the killing of young Muslims as he did the killing of non-Muslim children.Muhammad did, in fact, draw a distinction between Muslim and non-Muslim children and said that it would be permissible to kill a child who has no prospect of accepting Islam:    The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used not to kill the children, so thou shouldst not kill them unless you could know what Khadir had known about the child he killed, or you could distinguish between a child who would grow up to he a believer (and a child who would grow up to be a non-believer), so that you killed the (prospective) non-believer and left the (prospective) believer aside. (Sahih Muslim 4457)After capturing Mecca, the prophet of Islam also ordered the execution of two “singing girls” who had mocked him in verse:    “…two singing-girls Fartana and her friend who used to sing satirical songs about the apostle, so he ordered that they should be killed…” (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819)</blockquote>

Verification: Nawa warak dahaya keeyada? (Namaya wadi kireema dahaya)

Top Bottom