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Message: <blockquote data-quote="daddyimmo" data-source="post: 3708582" data-attributes="member: 110639">oh mine!seems like some are highlighted! I dont know how, ignore about them!  What ever make you happy as far as you are a criticizer! According to the American Islamic Council about 400 to 500 Muslims were killed in the 911! Did they fight for the right of Islam? Strongly unacceptable! Yet it is social justice & fairness toward universal peace! Not those tyrant Muslim regimes and terrorist organizations routinely invoke war to terrorize or kill innocent people to achieve their political agendas. “They are those with whom you have entered into a treaty, then they break their treaty each time, and they do not fear Allah. So, if you find them in war, deal with them in a way that those behind them have to disperse fearfully, so that they take a lesson and if you apprehend a breach from a people, then, throw (the treaty) towards them in straight-forward terms. Surely, Allah does not like those who breach the trust. The disbelievers should never think that they have surpassed (the divine punishment). Surely, they cannot frustrate (the Divine will). Prepare against them whatever force you can, and the trained horses whereby you frighten Allah‘s enemy and your own enemy and others besides them whom you do not know. Allah knows them. Whatever thing you spend in the way of Allah, it will be paid to you in full, and you shall not be wronged. And if they tilt towards peace, you too should tilt towards it, and place your trust in Allah. Surely, He is the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing.” {Surah Al-Anfal, V 8:57-61} And the popular quoting! Ha ha! Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allâh has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient (to Allâh and to their husbands), and guard in the husband's absence what Allâh orders them to guard (e.g. their chastity, their husband's property, etc.). As to those women on whose part you see ill conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful), but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allâh is Ever Most High, Most Great. (3:34) This is the right translation! Not those you see in the internet! Clearly we can see that beating is optional and not a must and for the reason where disobedience are! And there are condition in this if it is useful only and not a must! Further if we see If you fear a breach between them twain (the man and his wife), appoint (two) arbitrators, one from his family and the other from her's; if they both wish for peace, Allâh will cause their reconciliation. Indeed Allâh is Ever All Knower, Well Acquainted with all things.(3:35) Clearly we can see it’s optional as why then should we appoint arbitrators to solve the dilemma between the husband & wife! This is all done not to degrade the woman but to upgrade the woman to modesty, chastity & obedience! It’s wrong to oppress woman!  C’mon dude That is the biggest mistake is what you are doing! Accepting what make sense the erroneous way you see! That what lord Buddha too said: "Believe nothing,no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it,unless it agrees with your ownreason and your own common sense".  Ha ha ha! As long as the Muslims gather the Muslims means they have gathered the believers! If so then the Christians gather the Christians means they have gather the what? Believers ok! What matters not gathering! What is the reason for fighting? Base on what agendas? Those tyrants Muslims are strongly against the law of Islam though whatever they say! And fight in the Way of Allâh those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allâh likes not the transgressors.(2:190) Allah (SWT) or the Almighty God has only ordered to fight a disbeliever if he fights against you! Meaning to fight against only moral corruption, political and economic injustices, to restore basic human rights, fighting against tyranny and oppression. Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allâh by committing the major sins) in the land!.(5:32) How many innocents have being killed in the 911? Strongly unacceptable by Allah (SWT) or Almighty God It is you who is not accepting the Q'ran! But accept just like lord Buddha said! That is more than enough as long as you differentiate Muslims (who are exercising this) and Islam.TrulyJust as acts of terrorism committed by Buddhist cannot be attributed to Buddhism! Fighting is prescribed only to those who fight against us and not for any reason! But against transgress Whether he is a Muslim or a non Muslim it’s a punishment on hell not on earth! If you couldn’t understand that statement then, do think anything you want! </blockquote>

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