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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wal Bada" data-source="post: 4006240" data-attributes="member: 654">Classic christian_jewish thinking or Newtonian thinking. In Oriental knowledge base half open door is not equal to the door is half closed. They symbolicaly means two things. Don't get your match in to defining these, because Euclidian math is Chistian-Jewish! (3 angles of a triangle add to 180 until 15th century. But Chinese new a way to draw it on a curved surface so the sum gets more than 180, 2500 years back!). Half open door denotes an opportunity, half closed dooor denotes a stumbling block. Hence freedom of all sorrow <> having all the pleasure in the world.That happens due to not understanding Buddhism, when talking in that respect. Buddhist should try to attain atleast Sowan state in this life so  they will never born again in hell, and they sunseuently attain Nirvana in their 8th birth. If they have done it with the intention of attaining Sowan state, if the person was not able to do it in this life, he would be born in a place where there is access to Dhamma, so giving another opportunity to attain it.</blockquote>

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