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Message: <blockquote data-quote="clubs" data-source="post: 6190944" data-attributes="member: 257428">Faith, while an important part of human advancement, is often mixed with teachings that claim followers should not listen to others who don't believe as they do. Scrutiny and skepticism are important parts of refining belief and practice so they align with reality. Religion in general refuses to use what reality shows as a guide, preferring to rely on teachings that are not based on proof, but on myth, superstition and perhaps hallucination.  It is no secret that the standard of the industry in christianity for 1500 years, catholicism, routinely ignored reality and used someones interpretation of someones "experience" as a guide. Consider that the church did not recognize Galileo's discoveries until 1991. Myth and superstition guide religion-they have to-religion doesn't rely on what we see, measure, feel, or touch, but on what an earlier group decided we should believe. Religion, while many of you are probably experiencing a raise in your blood pressure because someone is asking you to question your blind belief, is adopting a set of beliefs, nowhere does religion demand any proof. Religion is a holdover from the days when we lived in caves and tried to explain thunder to ourselves and our kids, "A guy is up there hitting the clouds with a big hammer." Now, if you've made it this far, you are either a free thinker, you have your doubts about belief systems that were created in a time when the average person knew less that 2nd graders do now, or perhaps you are very religious and have the ability to listen to others who believe differently. My whole point here is not to attack religion or the religious-look a little deeper. I respect everyone's right to adopt a belief system that helps them to treat themselves and others with love and respect.  I just shudder when I see people firmly adopting guidelines that tell them to not listen to anyone outside of their system, to discount what science has repeatedly proven, or in the worst case, use violence as a method to "communicate" with others.  When we were primitive, before being civilized (writing is the accepted barometer of civilization), we had to explain the unexplainable, so we made up multiple gods that controlled natural phenomena. Those multiple gods were eventually replaced by one god, or in the case of Buddhism, no one supreme god. As we grow in our collective wisdom, we look more inside the incredible powers of our own minds and leave myth and superstition to stories.  And to all the people who KNOW that they are right and I am misguided, or whatever, this isn't about me, it's exactly about what you are feeling right now:  I must be wrong because I don't believe like you.  That exact point is all I'm asking you to think about. How come in general we are taught to listen to elders, respect our teachers and listen to those who have great minds, but in the case of religion-we are taught to ignore scholars-in fact, the Bible/Kuran, a collection of books written over some 1500 years, states, at one point, that followers should not talk to scholars about truth because they will become confused. Sure, don't learn anything, just believe what you are told-study the cause of what we now call the dark ages, that time period from around the 7th to the 12th centuries, where reading was the prerogative of the church. You may ask yourself why you accept certain beliefs that are fantastic when looked at objectively, yet you actually trust science for your daily safety...oh yes, the bible says lean not to your own understanding-we would still be in caves if all of us were so gullible....ooops! Don't get mad, get educated, but excuse me, I have to get back to 2010</blockquote>

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