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<blockquote data-quote="sudunone" data-source="post: 6878728" data-attributes="member: 205934"><p><strong>To I love Srilanka</strong></p><p></p><p>1. Paedophilia, aggression against homosexuality and sexual discrimination are out-dated practices. So any belief system that still advocates these, are out-dated for today's society.</p><p></p><p>2. Punishment as a method of achieving a desired behaviour is, also, an out-dated method. This is actually a very primitive method of learning and is not even used on intelligent animals anymore. Rewarding a good action is a better method, but even this is not a good form. The highest level of learning is that which occurs through understanding: a person may avoid doing a wrong deed because he understands it to be wrong, not because he is afraid of punishment. (Refer Kohlberg, Moral development)</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Purple">A simple question at this point: Would you like your partner to be faithful to you because she/he fears punishment (by you, by shariah law or by God) or because she/he loves you? In case you haven't experienced the latter, it's one of the best feelings you can experience.</span></p><p></p><p>3. I know Islam recommends charity during Ramazan period, which is a good practice; I also know that Muslims in Sri Lanka have a system where they get accommodation at mosques if they happen to come to a city at night, or as the need may be, which is again, a good practice. (By the way, why should I bring up this? None of you Muslims mentioned this good action.) However, we are discussing about the place of punishment and fear within a religion; whether there could be a difference in moral values/ right and wrong depending on context.</p><p></p><p>4. Do you really think crime rates have dropped in arabian countries? I think the incidents are not reported rather. How many SriLankan housemaids are raped and tortured? How many of them are not paid what is due? Punishment sends one clear message: DON'T GET CAUGHT. It doesn't guide a person in the right direction. Arabs, over the years, have learnt that any crime such as rape done against foriegners like SriLankans, are not punishable; that the state law will not protect the foriegner. So they have no fear of crime against foriegners.</p><p></p><p></p><p>5. I know, but my problem is with this 'how to achieve that'. Covering up women in black clothes is not a suitable method to prevent rape, for instance. It should be done through control of desire in males-they are the culprits. Your method punishes the victims.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sudunone, post: 6878728, member: 205934"] [b]To I love Srilanka[/b] 1. Paedophilia, aggression against homosexuality and sexual discrimination are out-dated practices. So any belief system that still advocates these, are out-dated for today's society. 2. Punishment as a method of achieving a desired behaviour is, also, an out-dated method. This is actually a very primitive method of learning and is not even used on intelligent animals anymore. Rewarding a good action is a better method, but even this is not a good form. The highest level of learning is that which occurs through understanding: a person may avoid doing a wrong deed because he understands it to be wrong, not because he is afraid of punishment. (Refer Kohlberg, Moral development) [COLOR=Purple]A simple question at this point: Would you like your partner to be faithful to you because she/he fears punishment (by you, by shariah law or by God) or because she/he loves you? In case you haven't experienced the latter, it's one of the best feelings you can experience.[/COLOR] 3. I know Islam recommends charity during Ramazan period, which is a good practice; I also know that Muslims in Sri Lanka have a system where they get accommodation at mosques if they happen to come to a city at night, or as the need may be, which is again, a good practice. (By the way, why should I bring up this? None of you Muslims mentioned this good action.) However, we are discussing about the place of punishment and fear within a religion; whether there could be a difference in moral values/ right and wrong depending on context. 4. Do you really think crime rates have dropped in arabian countries? I think the incidents are not reported rather. How many SriLankan housemaids are raped and tortured? How many of them are not paid what is due? Punishment sends one clear message: DON'T GET CAUGHT. It doesn't guide a person in the right direction. Arabs, over the years, have learnt that any crime such as rape done against foriegners like SriLankans, are not punishable; that the state law will not protect the foriegner. So they have no fear of crime against foriegners. 5. I know, but my problem is with this 'how to achieve that'. Covering up women in black clothes is not a suitable method to prevent rape, for instance. It should be done through control of desire in males-they are the culprits. Your method punishes the victims. [/QUOTE]
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