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<blockquote data-quote="kalyanamithra" data-source="post: 2607078" data-attributes="member: 99586"><p>Pinwath mithura,</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Only the Tipitaka carries the words of Buddha. It has been carried in pure form only by what 'scolars' may term: Theravada school of Buddhism. Mahayana and Tantrayana 'accepts' addition of other things to what they follow... Threfore their path is not the one originally disclosed... </p><p></p><p>So there's no point of getting entagled with 'schools of Buddhism'... <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy :)" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p>Why should we accept anything added by others over the Teachings of Buddha? (Please remember that those behind forming Mahayana were not even Sothapanna, because Mahayana refutes ability to attain Nibbana as followers...)</p><p></p><p>Please note that many texts written by westerners reflect a mixture of all thoughts... better not to rely on their definitions... Nibbana is defined in Dhamma in the Tipitaka...</p><p></p><p>And it's good if we can stop and reflect a bit on what we want to achieve by being a Buddhist... <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy :)" data-shortname=":)" /> Otherwise we will always have confused targets..</p><p>It's a personal decision whether or not we are going to follow it... </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I think I've explained it in a previous post in this thread...</p><p>Nibbana is not any kind of existence... because there's no existence free from anithya (impermanat), dukkha (prone ot suffering) and anathma (selfless) nature...</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>If we want to follow Dhamma; better decide first if we want to follow Theravada Buddhism or not... Otherwise we'd be wasting time without archiving anything...</p><p>Phrase "early forms of Buddhism" is misleading. What you denote by that phrase is still contained in the Tipitaka; and practiced in Sri Lanka. Even Mahayana school carries the original teachings even though they highlight some Mahayana suttas most of the time...</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Nibbana is attained in the life (that's why Dhamma is 'sandhittika') at the point of attaining Arhathood. It's 'saupadisesa nibbana'... The person is free from Dukkha even while living (he/she undergoes physical pains; but they do not affect the mind...). </p><p></p><p>An Arhat does not have Paticcasamuppada within him/her; therefore he/she has no ability to be born again. So at the end of the life (let's say at 'death') the existence Ends.. There's nothing left of him/her (except the dead body...)</p><p></p><p>If hoping to follow Dhamma; first thing to do is trying to be clear on what we want to do? We have to make sure we are not deceived by Adhamma that appears as Dhamma</p><p>Luckily it is possible to detect Adhamma to some extent because Dhamma is 'swakkatha' (well proclaimed)... <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Theruwan saranai!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kalyanamithra, post: 2607078, member: 99586"] Pinwath mithura, Only the Tipitaka carries the words of Buddha. It has been carried in pure form only by what 'scolars' may term: Theravada school of Buddhism. Mahayana and Tantrayana 'accepts' addition of other things to what they follow... Threfore their path is not the one originally disclosed... So there's no point of getting entagled with 'schools of Buddhism'... :) Why should we accept anything added by others over the Teachings of Buddha? (Please remember that those behind forming Mahayana were not even Sothapanna, because Mahayana refutes ability to attain Nibbana as followers...) Please note that many texts written by westerners reflect a mixture of all thoughts... better not to rely on their definitions... Nibbana is defined in Dhamma in the Tipitaka... And it's good if we can stop and reflect a bit on what we want to achieve by being a Buddhist... :) Otherwise we will always have confused targets.. It's a personal decision whether or not we are going to follow it... I think I've explained it in a previous post in this thread... Nibbana is not any kind of existence... because there's no existence free from anithya (impermanat), dukkha (prone ot suffering) and anathma (selfless) nature... If we want to follow Dhamma; better decide first if we want to follow Theravada Buddhism or not... Otherwise we'd be wasting time without archiving anything... Phrase "early forms of Buddhism" is misleading. What you denote by that phrase is still contained in the Tipitaka; and practiced in Sri Lanka. Even Mahayana school carries the original teachings even though they highlight some Mahayana suttas most of the time... Nibbana is attained in the life (that's why Dhamma is 'sandhittika') at the point of attaining Arhathood. It's 'saupadisesa nibbana'... The person is free from Dukkha even while living (he/she undergoes physical pains; but they do not affect the mind...). An Arhat does not have Paticcasamuppada within him/her; therefore he/she has no ability to be born again. So at the end of the life (let's say at 'death') the existence Ends.. There's nothing left of him/her (except the dead body...) If hoping to follow Dhamma; first thing to do is trying to be clear on what we want to do? We have to make sure we are not deceived by Adhamma that appears as Dhamma Luckily it is possible to detect Adhamma to some extent because Dhamma is 'swakkatha' (well proclaimed)... :) Theruwan saranai! [/QUOTE]
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