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<blockquote data-quote="chanster" data-source="post: 1464289" data-attributes="member: 53755"><p>As you say Audigy and X-Fi sound the same is it?? Looking at only the specs the X-Fi blows the Audigy in to bits........Dont speak of things which you are not even sure of....Since you know the specs,ill talk about the practical side....</p><p></p><p>The biggest sole problem with onboard is noise introduced into the audio - not that it's specs are bad. A dedicated sound card helps isolate your audio processing from the rest of the system (by a minimal degree, though it makes a large difference). I'm sure many of you are probably familiar with "mouse noise" - moving the mouse causing the I/O system to make an annoying buzz/chirp in your sound.</p><p>The quality of the good X-Fi sound cards is quite apparent over other sound cards and especially integrated audio. You will hear things in games that you never noticed before, and the clarity and quality of the audio is much better. I went from the [once Creative Labs flagship] Audigy 2 ZS Platinum to the X-Fi Platinum , and noticed the difference right away.</p><p></p><p><strong>Before bashing a product which you don't even have.....Hear and Believe as creative say</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>ill leave this as it is...There is a saying..."Never argue with an Idiot"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Umbata molayak kiyala namayak nadda? What is CA20k1 What is DAC?</p><p></p><p>CA20k1=It is a DSP....in other words a processor......</p><p>DAC=Digital to analog converter which is used for output.......There also is as a Wolfson WM8775 ADC for input........</p><p>There are 2 different things.....You know a lot about vga cards......to get something on to the monitor will only the GPU help? NO...it has to go through a DAC!</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Yes you maybe correct about the P1V APU part as i do not speak of things which im not sure of...MIPS is only one benchmark. Audio processing is relatively simple and doesn't require path prediction.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Seems that u agree with what i say indirectly......</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p>On the X-Fi? I doubt it but don't know for sure. First, how hot would a DAC really get? Is it worth saving a few degrees to transport digital data to PCI bus, thought the PCI controller, to main memory, to CPU, convert to analogue, back to main memory, back to bus?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good Sir...I post according to my experience.. please do not fall for those corporate reviews...please refrain yourself of stating numbers in tests....</p><p>this is audio... you cannot measure audio with numbers....</p><p></p><p>and if you do like to read reviews.... try looking for review that aren't from PC hardware site....</p><p>testing audio with PC g33ks is like taking your car to a carpenter for engine repair.</p><p></p><p>Finally you are not experiencing a true Audigy.......The sound card you have Audigy 2 SE is similar to a Audigy value/SE or Xtreme Audio.......which does not have a hardware DSP as part of the audio chip....It loads the processing on the Hosts CPU....So that kind of audio card is basically a onboard with reduced noise.......If you were talking about a real 2001 Audigy or 2002 Audigy 2 then you will see a significant improvement on sound.......Or you are more than welcome to come to my house and experience X-Fi with my cheapo M5300 speakers......</p><p></p><p>So please without saying X-Fi is not worth when you don't even own one and the fact that you don't have a proper sound card.......don't give our people the wrong information.......</p><p></p><p>Click My Siggy........(X-Fi related questions)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="chanster, post: 1464289, member: 53755"] As you say Audigy and X-Fi sound the same is it?? Looking at only the specs the X-Fi blows the Audigy in to bits........Dont speak of things which you are not even sure of....Since you know the specs,ill talk about the practical side.... The biggest sole problem with onboard is noise introduced into the audio - not that it's specs are bad. A dedicated sound card helps isolate your audio processing from the rest of the system (by a minimal degree, though it makes a large difference). I'm sure many of you are probably familiar with "mouse noise" - moving the mouse causing the I/O system to make an annoying buzz/chirp in your sound. The quality of the good X-Fi sound cards is quite apparent over other sound cards and especially integrated audio. You will hear things in games that you never noticed before, and the clarity and quality of the audio is much better. I went from the [once Creative Labs flagship] Audigy 2 ZS Platinum to the X-Fi Platinum , and noticed the difference right away. [B]Before bashing a product which you don't even have.....Hear and Believe as creative say[/B] ill leave this as it is...There is a saying..."Never argue with an Idiot" Umbata molayak kiyala namayak nadda? What is CA20k1 What is DAC? CA20k1=It is a DSP....in other words a processor...... DAC=Digital to analog converter which is used for output.......There also is as a Wolfson WM8775 ADC for input........ There are 2 different things.....You know a lot about vga cards......to get something on to the monitor will only the GPU help? NO...it has to go through a DAC! Yes you maybe correct about the P1V APU part as i do not speak of things which im not sure of...MIPS is only one benchmark. Audio processing is relatively simple and doesn't require path prediction. [I] Seems that u agree with what i say indirectly...... [/I] On the X-Fi? I doubt it but don't know for sure. First, how hot would a DAC really get? Is it worth saving a few degrees to transport digital data to PCI bus, thought the PCI controller, to main memory, to CPU, convert to analogue, back to main memory, back to bus? Good Sir...I post according to my experience.. please do not fall for those corporate reviews...please refrain yourself of stating numbers in tests.... this is audio... you cannot measure audio with numbers.... and if you do like to read reviews.... try looking for review that aren't from PC hardware site.... testing audio with PC g33ks is like taking your car to a carpenter for engine repair. Finally you are not experiencing a true Audigy.......The sound card you have Audigy 2 SE is similar to a Audigy value/SE or Xtreme Audio.......which does not have a hardware DSP as part of the audio chip....It loads the processing on the Hosts CPU....So that kind of audio card is basically a onboard with reduced noise.......If you were talking about a real 2001 Audigy or 2002 Audigy 2 then you will see a significant improvement on sound.......Or you are more than welcome to come to my house and experience X-Fi with my cheapo M5300 speakers...... So please without saying X-Fi is not worth when you don't even own one and the fact that you don't have a proper sound card.......don't give our people the wrong information....... Click My Siggy........(X-Fi related questions) [/QUOTE]
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