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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scarface" data-source="post: 18043031" data-attributes="member: 150267">I had following conversation few minutes ago with a stranger <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/nerd.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":nerd:" title="Nerd    :nerd:" data-shortname=":nerd:" />You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!You both like pain.Stranger: Hello there!You: finally no botYou: <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/P.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":P" title=":P    :P" data-shortname=":P" />You: btw it seems here there are loads of people who like painYou: i envyStranger: Are you a sadist?You: im more into psychological aspect of itStranger: Um, elaborate a little please?You: at the moment im hurting from a heart break. just want to discuss about it little bit. not interested in BDSM at the momentYou: I mean why we feel painYou: whats the purpose of itStranger: Every emotion is a human need.You: why people who cares end up getting hurtYou: exactlyYou: so whats the reason?You: why do we have to feel painStranger: We need pain to alert our bodies that something is dangerous and harmful. Just like we need fear.You: that's about physical pain mostly knowYou: what about the emotional painYou: it means heart suggesting us to leave the subject?Stranger: Saying why do we need pain is just like saying why do we need any other emotion, they'd all have the same arguments. Why do we need happiness or anger?You: it makes no senseStranger: It does.Stranger: How old are you?You: happiness is there because it gives a life a purposeYou: we will chase after it with that humans evolveStranger: Yes, but we cannot only feel happiness.You: anger helps to protect us from dangersStranger: Without negative feelings such as pain we wouldn't be able to experience happiness.You: yea systems take happiness from us when we almost get thereYou: then we will start chasing once moreStranger: Emotional pain is the lack of happiness. You can't be happy all of the time without being delusional.You: im 28You: hmmmYou: so it is kind trapYou: which the system we are living in set on usYou: when we feel the pain we looking for happinessYou: we try to move onStranger: It's just a part of the human condition, it doesn't have anything to do with our social system.You: not the social systemStranger: Love and feeling understood is a basic human need in our heirarchy of needs.Stranger: But there cannot only be love.You: who made those definitionsStranger: It's just human.You: if we follow thoseYou: we will always sufferStranger: Maslow, and psychologists following up to him today.You: it is about this entire system we live inStranger: It isn't a rule to follow, it's just our understanding of human psychology.You: it needs us to evolveYou: breedYou: reproduceStranger: No, it's about the mind and unconscious desires.You: because of it we had to sufferYou: are we really conscious in this complex and running world?You: can you say you are living consciously?You: we just followStranger: I believe that I have free will, so I am living consciously. Unconscious desires are always present.You: we don't make independent decisionsStranger: We follow our urges but they get repressed by our superegomStranger: Superego*You: that's a delusionYou: who makes our urgesYou: isn't that the main stream mediaStranger: I don't understand what you are trying to say. Humans are animals and it is natural for us to crave things such as sex and the release of anger.You: are we really really having the control of our own lives?Stranger: Those are basic, innate urges. Nothing to do with society or the media.You: or is it just mere illusionYou: okYou: <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy    :)" data-shortname=":)" />Stranger: And just as those desires I mentioned are innate, so is the need for happiness and pain. All human emotions are present throughout all of the societies and cultures in the world.You: common, structured, molded, formatted set of desires which we adopt after learning them by looking at the surroundings.Stranger: No, we are born with them.Stranger: Society doesn't tell us we need to be happy or hungry.You: are you sure about it?Stranger: Yes.You: it doesn't but it ask us to followYou: set of rulesStranger: What set of rules.You: they says ways of happiness are fixedYou: you need to money to buy stuff then you can be happyYou: if you drive fast car you will be happyYou: if you drink alcohol you will be happyStranger: It's anyone's choice to be mindless.Stranger: No one has to listen to that. I'm happy without money or a car.You: sex is more innate as you saidYou: aha that's great if you can say thatYou: but for the common it is not the caseStranger: It's a choice.Stranger: Ignorance is a choice.You: only thing they know is to followYou: yet we endorse it for the greater good of cooperative worldYou: we need a paradigm shift <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy    :)" data-shortname=":)" />You: other wise these poor souls will not have peaceYou: sadly <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy    :)" data-shortname=":)" />You: they just keep comparing themselves with others in 24/7Stranger: Everyone does that unconsciously.You: yesYou: that's the problemStranger: We are constantly inspired by others whether we realize it or not.You: they are all unconsciousStranger: That isn't necessarily a bad thing.You: media and cooperate world misusing itYou: I can only wish <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy    :)" data-shortname=":)" />You: they don't know how to be contentYou: life is just a struggle for them alwaysYou: painStranger: Advertizing in the media uses Ethos, Pathos, and Logos, all used since the Ancient Greek.You: <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy    :)" data-shortname=":)" />You: people sufferYou: somewhere somehow it has to be stoppedYou: no idea how it is gonna happenStranger: I have to go, I'm sorry. It was nice talking to you.You: pleasure is all mineYou: nice to meet someone like you here <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy    :)" data-shortname=":)" />You: how old r u btw?Stranger: 16!</blockquote>

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