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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MrCat" data-source="post: 24328924" data-attributes="member: 38575">Hey, I have done plenty of Four Wheel driving here in Perth. What are your main requirements?  90% on road driving and 10% Off-road?  Do you carry a lot of gear? Daily driver or a weekend car? If you are not in to hard core 4WDwing, forget the Patrol. That thing is a big tractor with a decade old design.!  Diesel automatic is extremely under-powered as well. Sahara is also a pain in the arse around town (i.e. shopping centre car parks), though extremely comfortable over long journeys and can carry a lot of stuff.  One thing to remember with these big 4WD`s when off-roading is that they are not easy to pull out if you do get stuck. For example, a little Hilux wont be ably to easily pull out a stuck Sahara. you`ll need an equally bigger car. The Pajero is the most comfortable IMHO the best overall package for your budget. Prado is quite good as well, it`s got a solid axle at the back so a bit bouncier. Cant go wrong with either, but again, mostly depends on your requirement. If you dont do a lot of driving, even a Petrol engine is fine to use as a second car. The Landrover Discovery series 4 is a damn good car both off and on road. Landrover`s terrain response system works like a charm in sand and mud. I haven't seen any other system that worked that well 5 years ago (not exactly sure about the tech available these days). But as with most European cars, there are some design/technology issues which are inherent for the model. For example, you have to lift the entire body up, just to change the turbo on a Disco 4..! Rangerover Sport is equally great, though smaller in size.  IMHO most Jeep`s (as a brand) are just poorly made and are not very dependable, I suppose you get what you pay for the money. Off-topic, but here`s a pic of my good old LandRover hanging out with a Japanese bunch.  <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/rofl.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="ROFL    :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /><img src="https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1gZlg9D3MBXS9JdNXeE-k2bSb1l4VyOnB" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />-----</blockquote>

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