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<blockquote data-quote="AncientGlory" data-source="post: 7231231" data-attributes="member: 262433"><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">These two question has no meaning or value, It is a fact that through out the world today, it is the parent who gives away a child to a grown man, with out her consent. That is just how parents behave in some countries. </span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">In fact my question is also the same, why did Aisha's mother and farther let it happen? More interestingly did they think they were doing the right thing? </span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong> </p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">To be honest my friend I'm amazed at the lack of logic in your questions.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Machan a persons behaviour or how she/he act in public has no reflection on what is right or wrong.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">For an example: their are two thieves who are best friends, they walk in the market and one of them says he's gonna break in to someone's home and kill him tonight, other being another thief laughs at this and wishes him good luck. All the people in the market sees that he is laughing and wishing and does this mean the thief is doing a good thing? Just because his friend was laughing and looked happy?</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">The other thing, just because something is written in a book does not make it true. A book will only reflect a biased idea of the writer no matter what the truth is. See where I'm going with this? Just because a book says that Aisha and her friends were happy about her marriage does not make it true. The truth is we will never know. Maybe she was happy. But that is not the issue here. We are talking about <span style="color: Red">is it moral for a middle aged man to marry a 6 year old girl? What is the reflection of that act in the modern society.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong> </p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Indeed we are to assume that(Only Muhammad, who carried out the act and her parents who permited it in the first place, what does other women has to do with it??) if the same laws and ethics and the sense of morality was there at those times. But since you say it was a different time frame and since I see logic in it, I'm gonna go with <span style="color: Red">no</span> here.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong> </p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">You yourself said it was normal at the time right? So why would anyone object?</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">What you need to understand is that I was not accusing anyone about anything. I just asked some simple questions to understand something I did not know.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">When you hear of something like that, you just wonder, did this people have a sense of what's right or wrong?</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">And what has it done to modern society?</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong> </p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">No.</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Again a question with no logic. Firstly whatever Aisha was feeling or was showing has nothing to do with what is right or wrong. That is why intercourse with a woman under 16 with or without her consent is considered rape. Those laws are their to ensure the well being of the society.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Secondly agian evidence from books???</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Thirdly, the question is not about Aisha liked it or not. It's about do you think it is ok for a middle aged man to marry a 6 year old girl. We are not talking about what the girl think. We are talking about what is moral and what is not.</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Hmm, I'm sure you dont believe that. We can never be sure what she would say if she was alive today. To be honest this question is not even worth our time. Just drop this part</span></span></strong>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">There are some interesting points here, that we can discuss. But not here, off topic. </span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">You are going too far assuming that this thread is accusing someone. I'm just investigating a historical event, and trying to understand what lead to such an event. More importantly why is it so important to us today, even when it happend so long ago, and at the time it was maybe not considered immoral.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Lets stay on the topic.</span></span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AncientGlory, post: 7231231, member: 262433"] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]These two question has no meaning or value, It is a fact that through out the world today, it is the parent who gives away a child to a grown man, with out her consent. That is just how parents behave in some countries. In fact my question is also the same, why did Aisha's mother and farther let it happen? More interestingly did they think they were doing the right thing? [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]To be honest my friend I'm amazed at the lack of logic in your questions. Machan a persons behaviour or how she/he act in public has no reflection on what is right or wrong. For an example: their are two thieves who are best friends, they walk in the market and one of them says he's gonna break in to someone's home and kill him tonight, other being another thief laughs at this and wishes him good luck. All the people in the market sees that he is laughing and wishing and does this mean the thief is doing a good thing? Just because his friend was laughing and looked happy? The other thing, just because something is written in a book does not make it true. A book will only reflect a biased idea of the writer no matter what the truth is. See where I'm going with this? Just because a book says that Aisha and her friends were happy about her marriage does not make it true. The truth is we will never know. Maybe she was happy. But that is not the issue here. We are talking about [COLOR=Red]is it moral for a middle aged man to marry a 6 year old girl? What is the reflection of that act in the modern society.[/COLOR] [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Indeed we are to assume that(Only Muhammad, who carried out the act and her parents who permited it in the first place, what does other women has to do with it??) if the same laws and ethics and the sense of morality was there at those times. But since you say it was a different time frame and since I see logic in it, I'm gonna go with [COLOR=Red]no[/COLOR] here. [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]You yourself said it was normal at the time right? So why would anyone object? What you need to understand is that I was not accusing anyone about anything. I just asked some simple questions to understand something I did not know. When you hear of something like that, you just wonder, did this people have a sense of what's right or wrong? And what has it done to modern society? [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]No.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Again a question with no logic. Firstly whatever Aisha was feeling or was showing has nothing to do with what is right or wrong. That is why intercourse with a woman under 16 with or without her consent is considered rape. Those laws are their to ensure the well being of the society. Secondly agian evidence from books??? Thirdly, the question is not about Aisha liked it or not. It's about do you think it is ok for a middle aged man to marry a 6 year old girl. We are not talking about what the girl think. We are talking about what is moral and what is not.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Hmm, I'm sure you dont believe that. We can never be sure what she would say if she was alive today. To be honest this question is not even worth our time. Just drop this part[/SIZE][/FONT][/B]. [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]There are some interesting points here, that we can discuss. But not here, off topic. You are going too far assuming that this thread is accusing someone. I'm just investigating a historical event, and trying to understand what lead to such an event. More importantly why is it so important to us today, even when it happend so long ago, and at the time it was maybe not considered immoral. Lets stay on the topic.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [/QUOTE]
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