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Message: <blockquote data-quote="diamonddrago" data-source="post: 6782514" data-attributes="member: 243828">the beginning point is just that matter....<img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/no.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":no:" title="No    :no:" data-shortname=":no:" /><img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/no.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":no:" title="No    :no:" data-shortname=":no:" />nothing special......nobody has to create matter.....matter doesn't have a special shape or behavior just its properties.....no God nothing.....what is clouds......? who creates clouds everyday?<img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/lol.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="LOL    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /><img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/lol.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="LOL    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />...nobody...clouds form from matter in air....</blockquote>

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