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Message: <blockquote data-quote="firoz85" data-source="post: 3802385" data-attributes="member: 22060">Hello again ! hope the link helped .How do you define adulthood ? Is there a definitive point in time where you are defined an adult ? Today in some 'modern' 'developed' ideal '21st century' countries the age of sexual consent is 12 and in others even 15 (18 usually being the oldest)- irrespective if your a grown woman or not . Islam gives us comprehensive guidlines in all aspects of life. If a man and woman are of biological age , then they are eligible for marriage (with consent of the bride/groom/and parents of course).If your basis on attaining adulthood is the ability to judge right from wrong and bad from good , then you cant really set a numerical age to that can you ! I think it will be fair of me to say 9 yr olds of that time (or even from not so long ago) are much more of adults than many of todays 'teenagers' and adults !You say that none of the prophets wives revoked or divorced him because of 'fear of punishment'.Thats being a bit presumptious of you because many of them outlived the prophet and spoke of nothing but praise for him.If you are to presume they remained silent out of fear of punishment (no proof) then you should also presume that they were content and happy to be married to him(ample proof).Besides there have been no single incident where the prophet was even slightly harsh or abused women , let alone his wives ! Paedophelia is defined as : sexual perversion in which children are the preferred   sexual object/.Sex or sexual activity with children who have not reached puberty.Marriage is defined as       :the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law.Pls dont confuse the two ! There is honor love and dignity in marriage .You make it sound like Aisha was an abused and traumatized woman ! Did she grow up to have the traits of an abused and disturbed child ? On the contrary she turned out to be one of the greatest Scholars of Islam ! She was a fountain of knowledge and was  vibrant in spreading what she had learned from the prophet to the others. How is this a sign of an abused molested child !?The course of the marriage have been a source and basis of many aspects of family law and family rights in Islam. For example what the duties/rights of the spouses over each other.About the narration you quoted . You see Islam gives a comprehensive guidline of how to live all aspects of our life . For this purpose almost everything of the Prophets life has been recorded. This narration was used to to rectify the dilemna of whether muslim men are allowed to offer their prayers some time after being intimate with their wives.So based on this narration it was concluded that if it is semen on cloth , it can be washed off with water (but not if its sperm-then a bath). I dont see how narrating this is an insult to the Prophet !I still stand by statement saying his words and actions are timeless ! All you have to do is look around and see the problems that this promiscuos sex driven culture has brought to society ! The number of  unpubercised children engaging in sexual activities,the number of single mothers,diseases,and all the stress and trauma of girlfrien/boyfriend breakup,confused teenagers, homosexuality and other negatives brought into to society ! Dont you think that reinstilling the value and honor that lies within the institution of marriage to budding youth would set things straight ? Some  narrations have been twisted and turned(like some of your other quotations) and some even fabricated and when eventually presented in bad light , obviously paints a bad  image of Islam.Anyways the bigger picture here is not a matter  of me being right or you being  right.Its what you beleive and what i beleive.To you your religion and to me mine!For me personally the aunthencity of a religion lies in it core values.In Islam1.Beleif in One Almighty God whom there is no one like.2.Angels2.His  book of Guidance The Quran revealed to us through Muhammed (S.A.W) - to show us how to implement it.3.The prophets , revelations to them.4.Judgement day and the hereafter - without which i personally beleive there cannot be true justice !So once you submit to that , whatever is authentic and allowed is permissible , and whatever is prohibited we abstain ! like it or not !We have bee given a comprehensive guide to life.The Creator knows better than the creation ! So in that reqard there have been a set of laws and guidlines prescribed to us in all spheres . Family Society State Spiritual !Id like to take note here and mention to all those who start such threads (be it any religion) or those who debate (not argue) to construct informative construct conversations of  'conveying'  and not 'convincing' ! There have been many 'Im right your soo wrong' sort of threads goin on around which is not cool . Respect!cherio</blockquote>

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