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<blockquote data-quote="AncientGlory" data-source="post: 7417982" data-attributes="member: 262433"><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">I have found here six translations of <span style="color: #ff0000">Qur'an 4:34:</span>(Taken directly from the internet)</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">All of them says men are superior to women and they have the right to beat them.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">(1)So it seems to me that islam is not a religion where women are treated equally. Do you agree?</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">(2)If not why?</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></strong></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">"Men are superior to women on account of the qualities with which God has gifted the one above the other, and on account of the outlay they make from their substance for them. Virtuous women are obedient, careful, during the husband's absence, because God has of them been careful. But </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">chide</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"> those for whose refractoriness you have cause to fear; </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">remove them into beds apart</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">, and </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">scourge them</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">: but if they are obedient to you, then seek not occasion against them: verily, God is High, Great!" (Rodwell's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)</span></span></strong></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">"Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">admonish</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"> them and send them to </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">beds apart and beat them</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme." (Dawood's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)</span></span></strong></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">"Men are in charge of women, because Allah has made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah has guarded. As for those from whom you fear rebellion, </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">admonish</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"> them and </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">banish them to beds apart</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">, and </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">scourge</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"> them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great." (Pickthall's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)</span></span></strong></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">"Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">admonish</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">; </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">banish them</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"> to their couches, and </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">beat them</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All high, All great." (Arberry's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)</span></span></strong></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">admonish them</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">, and </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">leave them alone</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"> in their sleeping places and </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">beat them</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. (Shakir's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)</span></span></strong></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whom part you fear disloyalty and ill conduct, </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">admonish them</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"> (first), (next), </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">refuse to share their beds</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">, (and last) </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">beat them (lightly</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance) for Allah is Most High, Great (above you all). (Ali's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)</span></span></strong></li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AncientGlory, post: 7417982, member: 262433"] [B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]I have found here six translations of [COLOR=#ff0000]Qur'an 4:34:[/COLOR](Taken directly from the internet) All of them says men are superior to women and they have the right to beat them. (1)So it seems to me that islam is not a religion where women are treated equally. Do you agree? (2)If not why? [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [LIST=1] [*][B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]"Men are superior to women on account of the qualities with which God has gifted the one above the other, and on account of the outlay they make from their substance for them. Virtuous women are obedient, careful, during the husband's absence, because God has of them been careful. But [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]chide[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] those for whose refractoriness you have cause to fear; [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]remove them into beds apart[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4], and [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]scourge them[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]: but if they are obedient to you, then seek not occasion against them: verily, God is High, Great!" (Rodwell's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [*][B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]"Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]admonish[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] them and send them to [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]beds apart and beat them[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme." (Dawood's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [*][B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]"Men are in charge of women, because Allah has made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah has guarded. As for those from whom you fear rebellion, [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]admonish[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] them and [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]banish them to beds apart[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4], and [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]scourge[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great." (Pickthall's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [*][B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]"Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]admonish[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]; [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]banish them[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] to their couches, and [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]beat them[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All high, All great." (Arberry's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [*][B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]admonish them[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4], and [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]leave them alone[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] in their sleeping places and [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]beat them[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. (Shakir's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [*][B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whom part you fear disloyalty and ill conduct, [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]admonish them[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] (first), (next), [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]refuse to share their beds[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4], (and last) [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]beat them (lightly[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance) for Allah is Most High, Great (above you all). (Ali's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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