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<blockquote data-quote="AncientGlory" data-source="post: 7428679" data-attributes="member: 262433"><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">I don't see the need of a seperate thread to discuss this. So I'm gonna give some of my ideas here.</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">I have read the things in the link provided, with an open mind. I assure you I did.</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">Thank you for the link, it provides details about women rights in Islam.</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">Now I invite you to think of what I have to say with an open mind.</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">Zakir Naik says in the article '<span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><em><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: DarkGreen">Islam believes in equality of men and women – <u>‘Equality’ does not mean ‘identicality</u></span>’. </span></em></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><em><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></em></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">So even Zakir Naik does not believe in equal rights. Instead he plays a word game saying we believe in equal rights, but what we mean by equal, is not same(identical) rights, but something else.</span></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">So if you were also talking about something else like Zakir Naik, then fine we can just agree that Islam does not give women the same rights. Instead men get something better. That was my point anyway.</span></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">Then can you see he deliberately ignore the later part of the Quran 3:34?</span></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">He says</span></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Lucida Console'"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">"<span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: DarkGreen">And its mentioned in Surah Nisa, Ch. 4, Verse No.34 which says, ‘The men are the protectors and maintainers of the women, for God has given one of them more strength than the other and they give them their means</span></span>’. "</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">Where's the part about beating women and refusing sex? Why does he not talk about it? Simply because it will contradict the whole thing.</span></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span><span style="color: Red"></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Red">Again it is simple. Islam does not give the same(identical or equal) rights to women.</span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">By the way here's the definition of the word 'identical' from Oxford online dictionary because it seems like Zakir Naik is a fan of word games.</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">"exactly alike or the same"</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">The article you have provided is about "Rights of women in Islam".i.e What they can do, what they can't do and what they get.In an article about 'equal rights of women in Islam', it should focus on comparing the rights of men and women, and argue how the exact things are given to both. Not just how both are punished the same way if they commit a murder, but how they are treated equally(same way) in everything.</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AncientGlory, post: 7428679, member: 262433"] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][B][SIZE=4]I don't see the need of a seperate thread to discuss this. So I'm gonna give some of my ideas here. I have read the things in the link provided, with an open mind. I assure you I did. Thank you for the link, it provides details about women rights in Islam. Now I invite you to think of what I have to say with an open mind. Zakir Naik says in the article '[FONT=Arial][I][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=DarkGreen]Islam believes in equality of men and women – [U]‘Equality’ does not mean ‘identicality[/U][/COLOR]’. [/FONT][/I] [FONT=Trebuchet MS]So even Zakir Naik does not believe in equal rights. Instead he plays a word game saying we believe in equal rights, but what we mean by equal, is not same(identical) rights, but something else. So if you were also talking about something else like Zakir Naik, then fine we can just agree that Islam does not give women the same rights. Instead men get something better. That was my point anyway. [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS] Then can you see he deliberately ignore the later part of the Quran 3:34? He says [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Lucida Console][FONT=Arial]"[FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=DarkGreen]And its mentioned in Surah Nisa, Ch. 4, Verse No.34 which says, ‘The men are the protectors and maintainers of the women, for God has given one of them more strength than the other and they give them their means[/COLOR][/FONT]’. "[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Arial][FONT=Trebuchet MS] Where's the part about beating women and refusing sex? Why does he not talk about it? Simply because it will contradict the whole thing.[/FONT] [/FONT][COLOR=Red] Again it is simple. Islam does not give the same(identical or equal) rights to women.[/COLOR] By the way here's the definition of the word 'identical' from Oxford online dictionary because it seems like Zakir Naik is a fan of word games. "exactly alike or the same" The article you have provided is about "Rights of women in Islam".i.e What they can do, what they can't do and what they get.In an article about 'equal rights of women in Islam', it should focus on comparing the rights of men and women, and argue how the exact things are given to both. Not just how both are punished the same way if they commit a murder, but how they are treated equally(same way) in everything. [/SIZE][/B][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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