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Message: <blockquote data-quote="neroshan" data-source="post: 102177" data-attributes="member: 8568">Science & GodLet me explain the problem science has with God." Theatheist professor of philosophy pauses before hisclass and then asks one of his new students to stand.*"You're a God believer, aren't you, son?""Yes sir," the student says.*"So you believe in God?""Absolutely.""Is God good?""Sure! God's good.""Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?""Yes.""Are you good or evil?""The teachings says I'm evil."The professor grins knowingly. He considers for amoment. "Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sickperson over here and you can cure him. You can do it.Would you help them? Would you try?""Yes sir, I would.""So you're good...!""I wouldn't say that.""But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimedperson if you could.Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't." Thestudent does not answer, so the professor continues."He doesn't, does he? My brother was a God believerwho died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus toheal him. How is this God good? Hmmm? Can you answerthat one?" The student remains silent."No, you can't, can you?" the professor says. He takesa sip of water from a glass on his desk to give thestudent time to relax.**"Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?""Er... Yes," the student says."Is Satan good?"The student doesn't hesitate on this one. "No.""Then where does Satan come from?"The student falters. "From... God...""That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me,son. Is there evil in this world?""Yes, sir.""Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did makeeverything, correct? ""Yes.""So who created evil?"Again, the student has no answer."Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness. Allthese terrible things,do they exist in this world?" **The student squirms on his feet. "Yes.""So who created them?"The student does not answer again, so the professorrepeats his question."Who created them? "There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaksaway to pace in front of the classroom. The class ismesmerized."Tell me," he continues. "Do you believe in God, son?"The student's voice betrays him and cracks."Yes,professor. I do." The old man stops pacing."Science says you have five senses you use to identifyand observe the world around you. Have you ever seenGod?" "No sir. I've never seen Him.""Then tell us if you've ever heard your God?""No, sir. I have not.""Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God or smeltyour God? Have you ever had any sensory perception ofGod?"No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.""Yet you still believe in him?" thundered theprofessor "Yes."* "According to the rules ofempirical, testable,demonstrable protocol, sciencesays your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that,son?"Nothing," the student replies. "I only have myfaith."** * *"Yes, faith," the professor repeats. "And that is theproblem science has with God. There is no evidence,only faith."The student stands quietly for a moment, before askinga question of his own."Professor, is there such thing as heat?""Yes," the professor replies. "There's heat.""And is there such a thing as cold?""Yes, son, there's cold too.""No sir, there isn't."The professor turns to face the student, obviouslyinterested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. Thestudent begins to explain."You can have lots of heat, even more heat,super-heat, mega-heat, white heat, a little heat or noheat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We canhit 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat,but wecan't go any further after that. There is no suchthing as cold; otherwise wewould be able to go colderthan -458 degrees. You see, sir, cold is only a wordwe use to describe the absence of heat. We cannotmeasure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal unitsbecause heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite ofheat, sir, just the absence of it.**Silence across the room! A pen drops somewhere in theclassroom, sounding like a hammer.* *"What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thingas darkness?" " "Yes," the professor replies withouthesitation."What is night if it isn't darkness?"**"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something;it is the absence of something.You can have low light,normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if youhave no light constantly you have nothing and it'scalled darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we useto define the word. In reality, Darkness isn't. If itwere, you would be able to make darkness darker,wouldn't you?"**The professor begins to smile at the student in frontof him. This will be a good semester.**"So what point are you making, young man?""Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophicalpremise is flawed to start with and so your conclusionmust also be flawed." The professor's face cannot hidehis surprise this time. "Flawed? Can you explain how?""You are working on the premise of duality," thestudent explains. "You argue that there is life andthen there'sdeath; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing theconcept of God as something finite, something we canmeasure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. Ituses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen,much less fully understood either one. To view deathas the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the factthat death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Deathis not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.**"Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your studentsthat they evolved from a monkey?"**"If you are referring to the natural evolutionaryprocess, young man,yes,of course I do.""Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes,sir?"**The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling,as he realizes where the argument is going. A verygood semester indeed!  "Since no one has ever observedthe process of evolution at work and cannot even provethat this process is an on-going endeavour, are younot teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not ascientist, but a preacher?" The class is in uproar.The student remains silent until the commotion hassubsided."To continue the point you were making earlier to theother students, let me give you an example of what Imean."The student looks around the room. "Is there anyone inthe class who has ever seen the professor's brain?"The class breaks out into laughter.**"Is there anyone here who has ever heard theprofessor's brain,felt the professor's brain, touchedor smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to havedone so. So, according to the established rules ofempirical, testable, demonstrable protocol,sciencesays that you have no brain, with all due respect,sir. So if science says you have no brain, how can wetrust your lectures, sir?"**Now the room is silent. The professor just stares atthe student, his face unreadable!**Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old mananswers. "I guess you'll have to take them on faith."The class breaks into a deadening applause**"Continuing further, Sir, when GOD created theuniverse he made a set of rules which governs everyliving organisms, categorized in his own way. Forsome, life is a predestined, well programmed journeyof life. For others, like humans, the rules of lifeare a direct results of their own actions, words,thoughts or/and conducts. So, Sir, happiness, sadness,good, bad, sickness, good health, poverty andabundance, is man's own doing unto himself. The wrongand bad happenings in man's life, is nothing but thelack of righteousness in his way of life.</blockquote>

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