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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Y2K" data-source="post: 10966391" data-attributes="member: 35049">Now why would scientists such as Jastrow and Eddington admit,despite their personal misgivings, that there are “supernatural” forces at work? Why couldn’t natural forces have produced the universe? Because there was no nature and there were no natural forces ontologically prior to the Big Bang—nature itself was created at the Big Bang. That means the cause of the universe must be something beyond nature—something we would call supernatural. It also means that the supernatural cause of the universe must at least be:•spaceless—because it created space•timeless—because it created time•immaterial—because it created matter•powerful—because it created out of nothing•intelligent—because the creation event and the universe was precisely designed•personal—because it made a choice to convert a state of nothing into something (impersonal forces don’t make choices).Those are the same attributes of the God of the Bible (which is one reason I believe in a the God of the Bible and not a god of mythology like Zeus).</blockquote>

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