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<blockquote data-quote="Sri_Sampath" data-source="post: 26769999" data-attributes="member: 264139"><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤷♂️" title="Man shrugging :man_shrugging:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤷♂️" title="Man shrugging :man_shrugging:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" /></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">When the first <a href="https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/why-i-volunteered-covid-19-vaccine-trial" target="_blank">COVID-19 vaccine trial</a> results were announced in late 2020, there was surprise and jubilation about just how efficacious many of the vaccine candidates appeared to be.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">Since then, more than <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html" target="_blank">3.65 billion</a> COVID-19 vaccine doses have been administered worldwide, and we’ve also seen the rise of new coronavirus variants – some of which can partially evade the protective immunity conferred by these vaccines.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">So how does their “real-world” effectiveness stack up against the efficacy recorded in those initial clinical trials?</span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)">[MEDIA=youtube]4BQit4h6wfg[/MEDIA]</span></p><h3><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>EFFICACY VERSUS EFFECTIVENESS</strong></span></span></h3><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px"><a href="https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/what-difference-between-efficacy-and-effectiveness" target="_blank">Efficacy</a> is the degree to which a vaccine prevents disease, and possibly transmission, under ideal and controlled circumstances, whereas a vaccine’s effectiveness refers to how well it performs in the real world – including against new variants, and in people who may have been excluded from clinical trials, such as frail elderly individuals, or those taking drugs that suppress immune responses.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">Some of the <a href="https://www.gavi.org/covid19-vaccines" target="_blank">COVID-19 vaccines</a>, such as the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, reported greater than 90% efficacy in the context of those trials, and all of those authorised for emergency use by the WHO and currently being monitored in the general population<strong>*</strong>, reported efficacies of greater than 50% for the prevention of symptomatic disease, and much higher efficacies for the prevention of hospitalisations or death (see table below).</span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"></span></p><h3><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>EFFICACIES OF COVID-19 VACCINES BASED ON CLINICAL TRIAL RESULTS</strong></span></span></h3> <table style='width: 100%'><tr><th><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">Vaccine</span></span></th><th><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">Protection against all symptomatic disease after 1st dose (95% CI)*</span></span></th><th><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">Protection against all symptomatic disease after 2nd dose (95% CI)*</span></span></th><th><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">Protection against severe disease or hospitalization from start of vaccination (95% CI)*</span></span></th><th><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">Protection against severe disease or hospitalization from 21 days after 1st dose (95% CI)*</span></span></th></tr><tr><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">AstraZeneca</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">73% (56%-83%)<strong>**</strong></span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">67% (57% to 74%)<strong>**</strong></span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">90% (58%-98%)</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">100%</span></span></td></tr><tr><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">Moderna</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">85% (66%-93%)</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">95% (90%-97%)</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">100%</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">100%</span></span></td></tr><tr><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">Pfizer-BioNTech</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">82% (76%-87%)</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">94% (90%-97%)</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">89% (12%-99%)</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">83% (-38% to 98%)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">Sinopharm</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">n/a</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">78% (65%-86%)</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">n/a</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">79% (26%-94%)</span></span></td></tr><tr><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">Sinovac</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">n/a</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">51% (36%-62%)</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">n/a</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">100%</span></span></td></tr><tr><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">Janssen/Johnson& Johnson</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">66% (55%-75%)***</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">n/a</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">77% (55%-89%) after 14 days</span></span></td><td><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 15px">85% (54%-97%) after 28 days</span></span></td></tr></table><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 10px"><em><strong>*</strong>Data shown are on protection against SARS-CoV-2 ancestral strain</em></span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 10px"><em><strong>**</strong>AstraZeneca data shown on symptomatic disease is only for cases at least 14 days after administration of dose</em></span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 10px"><em><strong>***</strong>Single dose vaccine. Refers to protection against symptomatic disease, 28 days after vaccination.</em></span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"><span style="font-size: 10px">This is far better than many scientists had dared to predict this time last year. Indeed, the WHO originally said that a <a href="https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/theres-more-one-way-covid-19-vaccine-end-pandemic" target="_blank">minimally acceptable</a> COVID-19 vaccine would achieve at least 50% efficacy, but ideally at least 70% efficacy, with consistent results in older people, and immunity lasting for at least a year.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(61, 142, 185)"></span></p><h3></h3></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sri_Sampath, post: 26769999, member: 264139"] 🤷♂️🤷♂️ [COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]When the first [URL='https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/why-i-volunteered-covid-19-vaccine-trial']COVID-19 vaccine trial[/URL] results were announced in late 2020, there was surprise and jubilation about just how efficacious many of the vaccine candidates appeared to be. Since then, more than [URL='https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html']3.65 billion[/URL] COVID-19 vaccine doses have been administered worldwide, and we’ve also seen the rise of new coronavirus variants – some of which can partially evade the protective immunity conferred by these vaccines. So how does their “real-world” effectiveness stack up against the efficacy recorded in those initial clinical trials?[/SIZE] [MEDIA=youtube]4BQit4h6wfg[/MEDIA][/COLOR] [HEADING=2][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4][B]EFFICACY VERSUS EFFECTIVENESS[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR][/HEADING] [COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4][URL='https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/what-difference-between-efficacy-and-effectiveness']Efficacy[/URL] is the degree to which a vaccine prevents disease, and possibly transmission, under ideal and controlled circumstances, whereas a vaccine’s effectiveness refers to how well it performs in the real world – including against new variants, and in people who may have been excluded from clinical trials, such as frail elderly individuals, or those taking drugs that suppress immune responses.[/SIZE] [/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]Some of the [URL='https://www.gavi.org/covid19-vaccines']COVID-19 vaccines[/URL], such as the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, reported greater than 90% efficacy in the context of those trials, and all of those authorised for emergency use by the WHO and currently being monitored in the general population[B]*[/B], reported efficacies of greater than 50% for the prevention of symptomatic disease, and much higher efficacies for the prevention of hospitalisations or death (see table below).[/SIZE] [/COLOR] [HEADING=2][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4][B]EFFICACIES OF COVID-19 VACCINES BASED ON CLINICAL TRIAL RESULTS[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR][/HEADING] [TABLE] [TR] [TH][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]Vaccine[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TH] [TH][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]Protection against all symptomatic disease after 1st dose (95% CI)*[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TH] [TH][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]Protection against all symptomatic disease after 2nd dose (95% CI)*[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TH] [TH][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]Protection against severe disease or hospitalization from start of vaccination (95% CI)*[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TH] [TH][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]Protection against severe disease or hospitalization from 21 days after 1st dose (95% CI)*[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]AstraZeneca[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]73% (56%-83%)[B]**[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]67% (57% to 74%)[B]**[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]90% (58%-98%)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]100%[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]Moderna[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]85% (66%-93%)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]95% (90%-97%)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]100%[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]100%[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]Pfizer-BioNTech[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]82% (76%-87%)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]94% (90%-97%)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]89% (12%-99%)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]83% (-38% to 98%)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]Sinopharm[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]n/a[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]78% (65%-86%)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]n/a[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]79% (26%-94%)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]Sinovac[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]n/a[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]51% (36%-62%)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]n/a[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]100%[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]Janssen/Johnson& Johnson[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]66% (55%-75%)***[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]n/a[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]77% (55%-89%) after 14 days[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [TD][COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=4]85% (54%-97%) after 28 days[/SIZE][/COLOR][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [COLOR=rgb(61, 142, 185)][SIZE=2][I][B]*[/B]Data shown are on protection against SARS-CoV-2 ancestral strain [B]**[/B]AstraZeneca data shown on symptomatic disease is only for cases at least 14 days after administration of dose [B]***[/B]Single dose vaccine. Refers to protection against symptomatic disease, 28 days after vaccination.[/I] This is far better than many scientists had dared to predict this time last year. Indeed, the WHO originally said that a [URL='https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/theres-more-one-way-covid-19-vaccine-end-pandemic']minimally acceptable[/URL] COVID-19 vaccine would achieve at least 50% efficacy, but ideally at least 70% efficacy, with consistent results in older people, and immunity lasting for at least a year.[/SIZE] [/COLOR] [HEADING=2][/HEADING] [/QUOTE]
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