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<blockquote data-quote="Yeezus" data-source="post: 31533555" data-attributes="member: 587230"><p>That's the exact reason Dario/Altman trying to get a ban to OpenWeight models use inside USA, Cuz their product is MODELS.</p><p></p><p>Why KIMI K3 stopped registering new users recently. Cuz CHINA can't handle the compute it needs to serve such a demand that US Data centers do.</p><p></p><p>Why NVIDIA; META ; GOOGLE are supporting OpenWeights - cuz they are hyoerdcalers. Their business models are infrastructure & application layers. They don't give a flying fuck about the models itself.</p><p></p><p>Their stance is like - yeah we are all in for OPENWEIGHTS but you need cloud to host em. And we are here to serve you <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👀" title="Eyes :eyes:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f440.png" data-shortname=":eyes:" /> Thas <strong>INFRASTRUCTURE LAYER </strong>which I've mentioned above.</p><p></p><p>Facebook is like - We don't care about delivering the latest model - We already have billions of users and our business model is DATA ; ADVERTISING and we will implement AI to streamline it. It's <strong>APPLICATION LAYER.</strong></p><p></p><p>China is catching upto compute through building new data centers where GOOGLE ; META ; MICROSOFT had already built for decades.</p><p></p><p>Whatever the latest god level thinking model will US fronter releases - CHINA will distill it within days and either open source it or sell for a fraction of the cost ; where frontier charges and delivers 99% of its capabilities.</p><p></p><p>The exact reason why ELONs trying to bring compute into SPACE - Spacial Computing cuz he knows the future is Infrastructure.</p><p></p><p>That's why Ive said earlier</p><p>HyperScalers will win this GAME ; not model vendors like Anthropic OpenAI.</p><p></p><p>But both Closed Source and Open Source Models should exist. Did you see a recent news that an open source model blocked a cyber attack Claude and GPT failed to ask their "guidelines and cyber activity limits". That's why we need to both open and closed weights co-exist peacefully.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yeezus, post: 31533555, member: 587230"] That's the exact reason Dario/Altman trying to get a ban to OpenWeight models use inside USA, Cuz their product is MODELS. Why KIMI K3 stopped registering new users recently. Cuz CHINA can't handle the compute it needs to serve such a demand that US Data centers do. Why NVIDIA; META ; GOOGLE are supporting OpenWeights - cuz they are hyoerdcalers. Their business models are infrastructure & application layers. They don't give a flying fuck about the models itself. Their stance is like - yeah we are all in for OPENWEIGHTS but you need cloud to host em. And we are here to serve you 👀 Thas [B]INFRASTRUCTURE LAYER [/B]which I've mentioned above. Facebook is like - We don't care about delivering the latest model - We already have billions of users and our business model is DATA ; ADVERTISING and we will implement AI to streamline it. It's [B]APPLICATION LAYER.[/B] China is catching upto compute through building new data centers where GOOGLE ; META ; MICROSOFT had already built for decades. Whatever the latest god level thinking model will US fronter releases - CHINA will distill it within days and either open source it or sell for a fraction of the cost ; where frontier charges and delivers 99% of its capabilities. The exact reason why ELONs trying to bring compute into SPACE - Spacial Computing cuz he knows the future is Infrastructure. That's why Ive said earlier HyperScalers will win this GAME ; not model vendors like Anthropic OpenAI. But both Closed Source and Open Source Models should exist. Did you see a recent news that an open source model blocked a cyber attack Claude and GPT failed to ask their "guidelines and cyber activity limits". That's why we need to both open and closed weights co-exist peacefully. [/QUOTE]
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