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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hesian99" data-source="post: 31533566" data-attributes="member: 575490">i dont actually think sam tried much to ban open weights but dario might, he is playing a very efficient game, he financed a bigger model recently, he is on tight budgets unlike openai, i think anthropic actually has a very little userbase compared to openai, revenue might be similar but yeaon the nvidia thing, yes it might look like selling shovels in a gold rush might make the shovel guy pretty big, but the problem is this is intelligence what we are talking about, if tomorrow a company can make a model that is a few years ahead of the competition they will own the throne (id say the current gap is maybe a month cuz kimi caught up within a month after fable), better training better inference will always have its own advantages, these companies cant profit simply because of the competition, not anyone owns a monopoly now, everyone is fighting to their deaths, but there will be a winner probably and it will be bigger than anythingthis is also very wrong,"Whatever the latest god level thinking model the US frontier releases - CHINA will distill it within days and either open source it or sell for a fraction of the cost; where frontier charges and delivers 99% of its capabilities."first no one makes their models open source, no one, id be very happy if they did, open weight means dropping the model weights somewhere, its like getting the files of a software that we needed to run, not codebases, training data, rl pipelines or anything, so its just anyone could host itif that hyperscaler logic actually works then google should be on top of everything, they have literally everything, massive power plants, tpus, models, application layer to run it, but what has happened, they cant even release their dense model with the competition, but they are the ones who actually found most of the things llms are built on top of, if they hadnt done the attention paper we wouldnt even have gotten transformers, but what happened to them, i think they are ethically conflictedand nvidia itself is actually reinvesting a lot of money inside labs like openai, this money is going in loops cuz thats how it works</blockquote>

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